What qualifies as flirt interactions?

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What qualifies as flirt interactions?

Post by Simphobic » September 4th, 2023, 4:28 am

So I noticed in documentation it refers to flirt interaction with regards to the minimum requirement for autonomous interaction under romance tab. I’ve set it to 30 under romance and 60 undee woohoo.

however ive noticed my sim receiving flowers from npcs as well as one time being autonomously heat of the moment kissed by another sim. Despite barely having any relationship.

I guess I assumed give flowers and heat of the moment kiss are not considered ”flirt interactions”

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Post by C-Dark » September 4th, 2023, 1:12 pm

The "heat of the moment kiss" is from University EP and is a seperate interaction,
I am afraid, and also not reachable via Retuner (at least I didn't find something).

"This interaction is available to all Sims. Sims who accept this kiss will instantly become romantic interests."
But I guess it's more autonomous to GreatKisser, Flirty and HopelessRomantic sims?

At TSM you can find a tuning mod for the giving flowers (you need to register)
https://simsasylum.com/tfm/index.php?/t ... r-31-2011/
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What qualifies as flirt interactions?

Post by Simphobic » September 4th, 2023, 4:03 pm

C-Dark wrote:
September 4th, 2023, 1:12 pm
The "heat of the moment kiss" is from University EP and is a seperate interaction,
I am afraid, and also not reachable via Retuner (at least I didn't find something).

"This interaction is available to all Sims. Sims who accept this kiss will instantly become romantic interests."
But I guess it's more autonomous to GreatKisser, Flirty and HopelessRomantic sims?

At TSM you can find a tuning mod for the giving flowers (you need to register)
https://simsasylum.com/tfm/index.php?/t ... r-31-2011/
Aha I see.

I guess my question was more about how NRaas Woohooer views interactions like "Heat of the moment kiss" and "Give flowers". The documentation mentions that under the romance > human > liking gate, that it limits autonomous "flirt interactions" based on the value put there. I put mine at 30. Hence, sims should in theory require at least a friendship level of 30/100 before they will autonomously use flirty interactions. Hence, I guess "flirt" and "flirty joke" are interactions that my NPC and my active sims cant use autonomously unless we are above this threshold. However, I've noticed that my sim sometimes still receive flowers by random NPCs despite the relationship being low between my sim and the NPC, further my sim has been "heat of the moment" kissed one time where the relationship was around 0. So I assumed perhaps these 2 interactions aren't limited to by "liking gate" under romance in woohooer, but I wasn't sure so I wanted to ask, possibly the developers, whether my assumption was correct or not.

Thanks anyway though, it provided insight into more how the interaction works :D

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What qualifies as flirt interactions?

Post by C-Dark » September 4th, 2023, 4:11 pm

Simphobic post_id=96590 time=1693857825 user_id=23634 wrote: my question was more about how NRaas Woohooer views interactions like "Heat of the moment kiss" and "Give flowers".
I think, as I wrote, that these interactions are "seperate", means have nothing to do with the normal flirt/romance interactions and are not integrated in any whoohooer option.
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What qualifies as flirt interactions?

Post by Simphobic » September 4th, 2023, 5:21 pm

C-Dark wrote:
September 4th, 2023, 4:11 pm
Simphobic post_id=96590 time=1693857825 user_id=23634 wrote: my question was more about how NRaas Woohooer views interactions like "Heat of the moment kiss" and "Give flowers".
I think, as I wrote, that these interactions are "seperate", means have nothing to do with the normal flirt/romance interactions and are not integrated in any whoohooer option.
Aha, I see. So both "heat of the moment kiss" and give flowers are not really standard "romantic" interactions per se. I know heat of the moment kiss is supposed to be used when "dared to kiss someone" so it makes sense it wouldn't be limited by your standard romantic thresholds. The give flowers I guess is like give gift.. but with flowers.. with a hint of romantic undertone, so it would make sense as well.

Hopefully chain or izagor can either deny or confirm.

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Post by CardinalSims » September 4th, 2023, 10:39 pm

Most of this is defined in the SocialData.xml rather than an ITUN. My guess from comparing a few things is that Woohooer performs its changes based on something these actions aren't defined as, or something they ignore. They are listed as "Amorous", but there is a great deal of other metrics as well.

Especially given that Heat of the Moment Kiss is known to be very intrusive, I'm guessing it's EA functionality that they seem to ignore some other 'ground rules'. And 99% of the kissing interactions don't have ITUN, either. Go figure.

I know it's a less satisfying solution than allowing them to be autonomous and gated to your preference, but I was already poking around in the files so I made a tweak for both of them to remove autonomy if you'd like. Because files that edit one word being behind a registration wall is annoying.
Just keep in mind that the kiss one edits the EP9 SocialData, so it could potentially conflict with another mod that edits the same.

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