Why did SP break up this couple?

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Why did SP break up this couple?

Post by KokosnootSpecerij » July 19th, 2020, 9:01 am

What are reasons SP will break up an inactive couple? Those two sims have a full 100% green relationship, but the ex-boyfriend tag. Any idea why SP deemed this a bad relationship?

I have force break up at -90, and relationship liking gate at 80.

I also have woohooer and there the setting I think might be relevant are:
Romance:
Interaction level:
Marries - spouse
Romance - default
Steady - partner

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Why did SP break up this couple?

Post by C-Dark » July 19th, 2020, 9:16 am

If you don't want any married couples to break up, you need a special caste for it
StoryProgression-FAQ-Caste#How-do-I-sto ... o-break-up
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Why did SP break up this couple?

Post by KokosnootSpecerij » July 19th, 2020, 9:18 am

I'm fine with them breaking up, but I find it weird that they break up seemingly at random. I want my couples to break up because they have relationship in the red, not because the wind is blowing from the direction they don't like, so to speak lol

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Why did SP break up this couple?

Post by C-Dark » July 19th, 2020, 9:33 am

Normally there are many reasons for a break up like
- sim has another or multiple romances to other sims
(you can check via MC status Relationship or find sims in general Cityhall MC, Sim Focus on, Criteria "Number of Romantic Interests")
- not at least one trait equal for both

- no compatible zodic sign
1. compatible or equal: Aquarius, Arius,Twins, Lion, Libra, Sagittarius
OR
2. compatible or equal: Cancer, Capricorn, Pisces, Scorpio, Taurus, Virgo

- sim has a trait which influences it
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Why did SP break up this couple?

Post by KokosnootSpecerij » July 19th, 2020, 4:58 pm

That's a lot of different things haha. I was hoping for just the relationship in the red mattering

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Why did SP break up this couple?

Post by indignantgirl » July 19th, 2020, 6:28 pm

I've had couples with great relationships and all the compatible stuff get broken up by SP for no reason, multiple times. After I get the notification, I check and often they still have a very high relationship bar. Two sims in particular, in Sunset Valley. SP or the game itself does NOT want these two sims to find a partner so they always go to their grave single, no matter who I try to get them together with. This has happened with them in MANY saves.

I mean, I genuinely play them and get fantastic romances going with somebody they are already attracted to and have high relationships with. I'll even get them engaged because usually SP will marry them pretty quick once they are engaged. (I play rotationally and generally let SP take over at that point unless they are one of my main households.) With one of the sims, I got a notice that they were seen shopping for baby supplies and that they broke up back to back.

It just seems like, for whatever reason, sometimes couples don't work out even when they should. And yes, I guess I could force them married, but I like to pretend, a little bit, that my townies are acting autonomously. xD

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Why did SP break up this couple?

Post by JohnL83 » July 19th, 2020, 8:01 pm

I have similar issues. I really wish there was something better than the "no jealousy" LW to help keep sims from splitting just because of randomly flirting with others, especially when they have a faithful moodlet on top of that. I catch my sims "ask to watch the stars" with others all the time. Even with in-laws! And it doesn't seem to matter what the trait, often just seconds after flirting with their own spouse. I try not to stay away from my favorite couples too long so I can make sure this doesn't happen. I've been fairly lucky with most of those favorite Sim couples over the last few months.
It does seem though like SP singles out certain Sims for specific things for sure. I have a male couple in SV who SP keeps trying to add more adopted children to, even though they already have 5. Three of whom were born to them and the other two adopted when I was not playing that family. It's like every time I leave them they get saddled with another kid! I got rid of 3 in a row and finally just let them have 6 kids. We shall see if SP lets them go over 6 since I do have my households set for 12. Generally, I've noticed that EA often overrides SP's autonomous kids and babies. Thankfully the mods at least allow forced kids and pregnancies.

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Why did SP break up this couple?

Post by C-Dark » July 20th, 2020, 2:15 am

But why you do not force merely these special sims via caste to not break up
- you can set this caste manually to the sim (or household)

This way not all sims are included.

In my opinion most everything, even autonomous, is happening by random,
a simple percentage, a chance by number.
This is why we use mods, to increase or decrease chance or by number, to allow or disallow interactions the way we want.

There's a lot of mathematics running, if the calculations go wonky, maybe some overlap or interfere sometimes 🙂
The sims do not really think, so ...

But I also would like to know why exactly relationships break up even the liking is positively high, maybe Chainreaction can clarify this a bit.
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Why did SP break up this couple?

Post by KokosnootSpecerij » July 20th, 2020, 4:22 am

I'm wondering if I should set it to no break up and break them up manually if their relationship is actually bad. I have all stories in SP to custom, but story summary to all. So hope that will notify me if relationship is bad? Will it?

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Why did SP break up this couple?

Post by indignantgirl » July 20th, 2020, 7:14 pm

C-Dark wrote:
July 20th, 2020, 2:15 am
But why you do not force merely these special sims via caste to not break up
- you can set this caste manually to the sim (or household)
[...]
But I also would like to know why exactly relationships break up even the liking is positively high, maybe Chainreaction can clarify this a bit.

I use castes to orchestrate some things, but with these two sims in particular I've never considered it, only because it's such a curious thing. Almost like a puzzle I want to solve.

There was some discussion a while back about certain premades maybe having some kind of "fate" in the game, so their breaking up might have nothing to do with SP at all. While I'm not at all sure how that would work, I think it's a very interesting theory. Buuuut, it was igazor who mentioned it, so there's a chance it was a joke theory. ;)

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