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Career: Allow or dissalow?

Post by C-Dark » November 30th, 2019, 4:45 am

I need a clarification about what should be set where, because I'm always confused about it.

The list of careers is very long, is it necessay to click every career under town to Allow?
Or are they all allready allowed and I have to only set the Dissalow?

If I do have to allow all, do I need to set the ones I did not activate under Allow in the dissalow section too?

Under Caste Options:
- what shall I set under Elders then, if I only want them to be retired and "professor allow"?
Do I have to repeat and select in disallow all careers which are allowed from town options? Or disselect in Allow?
(I have problems that my elders will be assigned as professors even I set this to true also under General/option:career)

Sorry, but at the moment I cannot get it right in my head.
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Post by igazor » November 30th, 2019, 3:58 pm

Whenever an SP option comes in Allow and Disallow flavors, it is never necessary nor recommended to use both at the same time as doing so can lead to further confusion and unreliable results.

Both blank means left alone; everything that would be allowed by the game itself or other forces is still allowed.
Allowed means exclusively, in that everything else not selected is automatically disallowed.
Disallowed means that everything else not selected is automatically allowed or left alone.

I might be missing something, but it sounds to me like what you are doing is arranging things so that all elders without exception will always become professors and nothing else and they will not be permitted to continue working in a career they already had as an adult if they wish to for a while (some of my elders don't even think of retirement until much later). That might not be what you wanted? I don't think I want to go to a Uni where the only requirement to be a professor is advanced age and such service is actually mandatory until their death by old age transition arrives. :(

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Post by C-Dark » November 30th, 2019, 4:37 pm

Well, thanks for your good, easy to understand explanation of the allow and disallow setting.
And yes, I want only my elders to be assigned as professors, because all other ages ya after students and adults fill all other needed careers in town. I have enough elders, all have degrees.
I also allowed being professor for homeless, service and even tourists, but the auto assignment didn't assign those. I had only luck with assigning a tourist a special student career lever 2. This tourist professor really came back to do lessons, but none of my elders. I like them to be professor, to give their knowledge back to the young 😎
So, I will check my career allow, disallow settings. Anything else I need to do for making the auto assignment work for my elders?
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Post by sittingbear » November 30th, 2019, 4:55 pm

C-Dark wrote:
November 30th, 2019, 4:37 pm
tourists, but the auto assignment didn't assign those. I had only luck with assigning a tourist a special student career lever 2. This tourist professor really came back to do lessons,
I don't think using mini-sims like that is a good idea. Messing around with mini-sims too much can really break things.
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Post by Chain_Reaction » November 30th, 2019, 6:23 pm

If you want elders to only be professors just set the only allowed career to be University and it should take care of the rest. Doing this should eventually push them out of their existing careers but if you want the professor system to do it faster you can set Professor: Allow Quit Current Occupation to true. If they are retired you'll have to set Professor: Allow Retired Elder to true.

Keep in mind you need Sims enrolled in the degrees they have for it to create professors and it happens at 6am Sim time.

It's not going to touch tourist or service sims because those shouldn't be messed with. Homeless Sims are too volatile so it skips those too.

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Career: Allow or dissalow?

Post by C-Dark » December 1st, 2019, 3:38 am

Sittingbear wrote:Messing around with mini-sims too much can really break things
Uuh that maybe explains my bugged game I had befor where the loading time increased to an unacceptable point. I have a fresh new game now, portered my town and haven't messed around with tourists or others. Thank you all for the advices, I hope I will get everything right set soon, will save this page as pdf so I won't forget. 👍
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Career: Allow or dissalow?

Post by C-Dark » December 2nd, 2019, 3:42 pm

Oh no, a lot of my residents were thrown out of their jobs.
What I did is under town only set some Career: Dissalow and reset the allow option (I had set both befor).

F.i. in town allow find job is enabled
in Caste adult it is disabled, but

a lot of my inactive adults have suddenly other jobs and in their career status the previous one is even not mentioned at all.
What went wrong here?
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Post by C-Dark » December 2nd, 2019, 4:33 pm

hm, I reverted town options to career: allow and activated all again. I think some careers are not taken by SP when I only use the disallow option?
F.i. my Daycare was thrown out even I have a manual caste for her which only allows daycare.
One sim in education career was thrown out
one fireman and alo retired elders were given jobs even in the elder caste only retired and university (allow professors) is activ.

I hope now everything will be fine again.
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Post by igazor » December 2nd, 2019, 4:42 pm

It's difficult to say what went wrong there without having access to all of the Town, Caste and other options that may have been set at the same time. But did you check on individual Sim Options? That's the one that's going to be honored whether they are set explicitly and thus show up with no parentheses or they are inherited from Town, Caste, or Household and show up in (parentheses).

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Career: Allow or dissalow?

Post by C-Dark » December 2nd, 2019, 4:59 pm

ok. I checkt my Daycare Sim.
- town allowed all (accept 6)
- daycare manual caste (I give the sim)
I activated only daycare under career: allow

When I click this daycare sim everything seems to be right, but under career:allow is a 101 shown instead of 1?
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