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Can Roommates earn money when inactive?

Post by Litrally_Aj3 » December 20th, 2023, 9:57 am

Hi! I was wondering if there was a way for the inactive sims to still earn money when they go to work. I am doing a Landlord challenge where my sim needs to collect rent money, but since the tenants who are inactive do not earn money from going to work there is no way to collect rent from them. Is there any way to make that possible with this mod or another mod? I believe in the past I saw a way to use either Master Controller or Story Progression to have neighbor sims accurately earn money from their jobs, and was wondering if that method exists or if I made it up, and if it would apply to roommates.

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Post by igazor » December 20th, 2023, 10:48 am

If we were talking about traditional roommates as EA defined them, then no because they would really be "homeless" (not out on the streets of course but no defined real household) NPCs much like Service Sims while in the roommate slots. But I believe Ani's Apartment mod changes that up.

The SP Money module helps make things more controllable and realistic, but I've never heard of inactive but defined household sims not earning money from their jobs. What kind of jobs do these sims have and are they actually going to work when they should? If they aren't rabbithole jobs where they work a defined set of days/hours each week and collect their pay at the end of the workday but rather something more like self-employed Ambitions types of jobs, then there might not be anything currently pushing them to do tasks throughout the day that would earn them enough money to live on.

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Post by Litrally_Aj3 » December 20th, 2023, 10:54 am

Hello, thanks for responding! So I guess I should rephrase my question because I realize I glossed over an important detail. As you may know with Ani's mod you set the amount of funds each family in the rental property has. If I am not playing as one of the tenants while they are at work, and I switch to them once they have come home, the amount of funds they have does not change from what it was set to when I split them into their apartments. I thought maybe it was because they are inactive, but I am thinking maybe it is just going into the general household funds rather than the specific family. For context all the tenants work rabbit hole jobs, and I can see them leave for work and come back later in the day with their work outfits on, and they all got memories of going to their first day, but have not earned any money. I thought about using online banking with direct deposit but unfortunately that is a set daily amount rather than automatic based on their earnings that day. Another thing I noted is since they are not active sims, when they leave work I do not get a pop up saying they left work and what they earned.

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Post by igazor » December 20th, 2023, 11:02 am

If you are indeed using SP, what do you see when you run an Accounting Report on their household (click on one of the sims)?
NRaas > SP > Household Options > Accounting

I've never used Ani's mod, so I don't know to what extent finances between the roommates' household and the ones that actually own the lot are kept separate. Other players here will hopefully fill in the gaps. I thought perhaps we were talking about a more widespread issue, like the neighbors owning and living in lots around yours (not roommates) weren't seeming to earn any money from their jobs either but perhaps I misunderstood the original concern.

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Post by Litrally_Aj3 » December 20th, 2023, 9:45 pm

Yeah I was specifically referring to the sims living on the lot with me that are in other apartments. I guess the game considers them still active. I am using SP, but I think it can't affect the roommates with Ani's Apartment Mod since they are all technically part of the active family it would seem. Unless maybe I could create a caste for apartment tenants and add the tenants to that but I haven't tried. Basically if you move 6 families onto a lot with 100,000 simoleons, you can choose how much each family gets when you split them into apartments, and don't need to use all the household funds. So if you distribute 50 grand of it between the families, the other 50 grand will still show up in edit town when you look at the household. I am think the money they earn is adding onto the household funds that are inaccessible and I doubt there is a way to fix it after doing some digging.

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Post by CardinalSims » December 21st, 2023, 2:51 am

I'm almost certain the Apartment Mod 'inactives' don't spend their money nor accumulate more. They're in a bit of a limbo, just being unselectable members of the active household, where they aren't affected by the incomes and outgoings that real inactives are. As it is described as TS2 style, this was probably intentional to keep your unplayed family funds frozen until you the player are in control of them.

The real difference between using the Apartment Mod and just using MC's selectability options is this pseudo-household effect and the ease of switching 'sets' of active sims. I'm unsure if you were switching households just to gauge their finances or if you actually plan to rotate between landlord and tenant, but if you don't actually intend on playing those households there are probably ways to make it work for the purpose of the challenge without officially apartment-ifying things.

If you have the landlord officially live elsewhere- a tiny empty lot, for example- you could utilize MC's home Open command and the 'Inappropriate But In A Good Way' lifetime reward to go about your daily life at the apartment without much fuss except avoiding the 'Go Home' command. You could even combine this with SP's Rental Property feature to actually own and automate the rent of the property.
The tenants would still share a net worth with one another, but it would at least be separate from your household.

Or if you're a fan of doing some virtual accounting, living with sims you have made unselectable and simply making a note of what funds going in and out belong to you would be the most bare bones least hijinks way.

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Post by Litrally_Aj3 » December 21st, 2023, 9:34 am

Yeah I realized the funds are intended to be frozen. The main reason I wanted to have them earn funds is so there would be a bit of randomness to the challenge, where sims may not be able to pay their rent if they miss work too much. Unfortunately I think I have to pick between them having separate finances using the apartment mod, or not using the apartment mod at all. I think instead I will just use online banking accounts and have them use direct deposit and just calculate how much they SHOULD be earning each week based on their pay and hours. They won't lose money for missing work but I will have to find another way to implement chaos into my challenge lol. I thought about having the landlord live off lot but I really enjoy the idea of living on the property so I think I will just give up the accurate income aspect lol.

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