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Gender Preference Question

Post by texansims » June 2nd, 2023, 9:58 am

I have a male human Sim in my active household with the following gender preferences:
50038 male
99981 female

There is a male Sim who has the following gender preferences:
11 male
2 female

I also have an imaginary friend made real (female) in my household with the following gender preferences:
100288 male
49856 female
(She and her male spouse each have the eternally faithful moodlet.)

Are the numbers for the first male and the imaginary friend made real excessively high? How did they get so high? All of the other Sims I have checked have numbers in the range of -250 to +250.

The two males are currently attracted to one another and have romantic interactions. Assuming they get married, will there be issues with their relationship?
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Gender Preference Question

Post by C-Dark » June 3rd, 2023, 3:53 am

If the numbers are positive they are attracted to that gender, so
you can change both to a very high number like
50000 and the sim will most likely stay bisexual the whole life

if you want Sims to be straight like
for women change preference
for women minus -50000
for male 50000

Zero means undecided which will change unexpectedly depending on the Sims romantic relationships.

You can change it with MC for multiple Sims too
like use filter gender female
the first window is the male preference the second for women.

Gender preferences are influenced by positive or negative romantic experiences through the Sims life.

But I don't know how the game-system gave that numbers to your sims. I suppose also by random 🙂
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Gender Preference Question

Post by igazor » June 3rd, 2023, 12:31 pm

Don't know if this helps, but a perhaps slightly more succinct way to put it is that the magnitude of a sim's gender prefs has no bearing on what a sim wants or will be pushed to do with another sim, nor how they feel about them. With regard to just the gender pref scores, the sim is open to possible attraction (positive), neutral (0) or not open (negative). It doesn't matter how highly positive or negative the values are, except to repeat that those in the tens of thousands (positive or negative) just mean that the sim will probably never have enough experiences in their lifetime to change their orientation, whereas those that are very low either way (like -15 to +15) might very well change their minds throughout typical gameplay events, even without player intervention. :)

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Gender Preference Question

Post by texansims » June 4th, 2023, 12:27 am

So basically, no matter what I do in-game with the male Sim in my active household, he will always be attracted to both sexes, leaning slightly more toward females. And the male Sim he is attracted to could still go either way with his orientation.

Thanks for your input igazor, I appreciate you taking the time to answer.
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Post by C-Dark » June 4th, 2023, 2:55 am

As I mentioned
you can change the numbers
click the sim
Mastercontroller - Intermediate - Gender preferences

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Post by Turjan » June 4th, 2023, 9:46 am

texansims wrote:
June 4th, 2023, 12:27 am
So basically, no matter what I do in-game with the male Sim in my active household, he will always be attracted to both sexes, leaning slightly more toward females.
From the numbers you posted you can see that he definitely had more actual romantic interactions with male sims than with female sims. You can also see that, if the numbers would have started as low as with sims that have one of the values with a negative - which, for the most part, guarantees that it stays this way without player intervention - he would have lost any possible attraction to females at this point.

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Post by igazor » June 4th, 2023, 12:42 pm

Let me retry to state something there. A sim is either potentially attracted to a particular gender or not. It's an on/off, 0 or 1, type of thing. It's not a question of liking both but they like this gender more than that one. They may certainly like/be attracted to a sim more than another, but that's what attraction scoring is all about and gender pref is only one ingredient in that structure.

There is no concept of liking both genders but preferring one over the other. Now how they got to these scores in the first place is a different question and that could have happened a lot of different ways.

If a sim has a score of 10,028 for males and 49,856 for females, then at that moment they are attracted to both genders. Period.
If a sim has a score of 10,028 for males and 5 for females, then at that moment they are attracted to both genders. Period

But I think you can see in the second case that the chance for being attracted to females is much more likely to not last if the sim engages in flirts and romantic activity with one or more males that have successful outcomes (or with females but have unsuccessful outcomes), because in that case the 5 will begin decreasing until it becomes 0 and then negative.

Again, it's an on/off switch and it's not how being bisexual works here in the real world (for most, anyway).

If a pref value is or becomes negative, then that doesn't mean that the sim could never be romantic with someone of that gender but just that they face a heavy attraction formula score penalty towards them. That penalty can be overcome on a sim by sim basis, but it's not easy and doesn't tend to happen as everyday occurrences for most players.

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Gender Preference Question

Post by Turjan » June 4th, 2023, 3:47 pm

From the numbers of the first sim who finds both genders attractive, you can see that he had 19 romantic interactions with male sims and none with females (or a few other possible combinations with such a surplus of male interactions). Straight and gay sims start at some combination of +2/-1, and those numbers go up by +2 for successful romantic interactions with a sim of a specific gender, while going down by -1 for the opposite gender. You can imagine that +2/+1 wouldn't work for bi sims, or rather, that state would vanish after ess than a handful of interactions. Your first sim would be exclusively gay by now in that case.

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