indignantgirl wrote: ↑

January 19th, 2022, 9:36 pm

A safe way to add foreign sims to your homeworld is to use Add Sim but WITHOUT inviting them over first. Master Controller will handle the part of dragging them into your world during Add Sim, so there's no reason to invite them first. I'm not sure what caused the problems with your household, but it might have had something to do with having the mini-sim "visitor" version of the Uni sim running around town while you are trying to add the "real" Uni sim to your household. Using Add Sim, I've pulled almost the entire Uni population into one of my homeworlds and everyone is fine, zero issues.

As for your current save, I'd go back to a previous save from before the sim was invited over and added to the household, because I'd be concerned with possible corruption.

acottonsock post_id=86812 time=1642649958 user_id=21999 wrote: I also don't have a previous backup of this family.

igazor wrote: ↑

January 20th, 2022, 4:09 am

Using Add Sim on a visiting mini-sim from a foreign world "should" work out okay if you have the four mods that are designed to provide protection for that scenario. These are ErrorTrap, Overwatch, Traveler, and RelationshipPanel. Can we get to see what some of these ErrorTrap logs are saying, especially if you already have these mods in play?

But I agree, going forward, that it is safer to use MC > Add Sim > Homeworld on a foreign sim without the visitation scenario, when there is no mini-sim copy of the foreign sim visiting. The other safe way to do this is to get the sim to join your household while visiting their world and thus bring them back home with you at the end of the trip. For Uni World though, this means that the Uni sim should first be a full-fledged resident of that world and not a resident of the dorms or frat/sorority houses when you do this although I have also had that work out okay in the end many times. Many of the first few generations of Uni students are now spread out all through the various worlds I have in play in my long-running game.

And yes, playing this game without always having some saves to revert to should things like this go wrong is a bad idea if you like the game you have ongoing and wish to continue playing it long-term.

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igazor wrote: ↑

January 20th, 2022, 2:17 pm

Wait a minute, who said anything about married?! That's the problem here.

1 - Sims from another world invited over for a visit are always mini-sim copies of the original sim who is a resident back in their homeworld. It doesn't matter how the visit is arranged, the EA way or the MC Invite Over way. What the mods do, in particular the four mods mentioned above, is provide extra protection for when that sim moves into the world they are visiting and then, by doing that, becomes a full-fledged resident. The original sim is still in their homeworld, but that gets resolved the next time you visit there and simulate that world.

There are no mods that making visiting sims into full-fledged sims. Only a move-in process does that. MC's Add Sim (not Invite Over, I mean the full Add Sim command) is a move-in process just without the social niceties of the conversational kind.

2 - Mini-sims should not get married. That will break the game. Only full-fledged sims should get married. So if the sim had moved into town first, into their own household, that of your sim, or that of another, then they would be a full-fledged resident sim assigned to a proper local household, and they may safely get married.

We can't really support the Deeper Conversations mod here, but if that is the force that made a resident sim marry a visiting mini-sim, then it should somehow not be allowed to do that.

You can always tell if a sim is visiting mini-sim by trying to change their wardrobe or bring them into CAS. You won't be able to by any means on a mini-sim, not EA's testingcheats CAS/subsets nor MasterController's CAS or Stylist. The commands just won't be there.