natbsim75 wrote: ↑

September 4th, 2021, 3:34 pm

Why did the stupid sim think that he needed this specific car? Do they know what they are buying or SP gives them stuff away randomly?

Yes, SP gives them a car randomly but as Sara_Darkees said above, you can stop them from buying particular cars that you don't want them to own. See this option: StoryProgression-Interactions#Disallow-Cars

Sara_Darkees and Sarah_Sims, sorry for taking so long to reply and thank you.
I use the... blacklist to disallow vehicles for inactive sims for a while now but it seems that the sims are always one step ahead from me (I think I said the same thing in a previous post) and get the vehicle it never occured to me to "blacklist". The final strike came from Cornelia Goth in Sunset Valley! She got the freaking University moving van and then Lorraine Cantina from Riverview got it too. But maybe, especially, Lorraine wanted to tell me something because she got pregnant with twins from a one-night-stand (damn you, Don Lothario! lol!) and the house she starts the game in, is too tiny even for her. The poor kids were sleeping on the kitchen floor because there was literally no place for a crib (let's forget getting two of them!). I figured that she wanted to move in another house and that's what I did (I have disallowed all kinds of moves in SP settings because it was getting ridiculous, everyone was moving around for no reason at all!).

The truth is that I have realized I have a love-and-hate relationship with SP. Does anyone know of another mod (Dreamer maybe?) that could keep the dreams, wishes and opportunities for all the sims in town while I switch around all the households and BE the SP the way I like it? Ever since I downloaded SP again (I think it's the third of fourth time I try to play with it), I feel like I'm not playing the game, I just search around the settings to stop the sims from doing things that I don't want them to do but SP "push" them with passion to do them!
For example, why do so many inactive sims "feel the need" to visit the graveyard or the hospital at 2 a.m. when no one is... dying or giving birth in their household? It was 5 a.m. when I caught one of my married couples walk around with their new baby in the stroller and their tag-icon said "Visit the Grind"!!! Why on earth would they want to visit a night club when it's not open and take the baby with them too unless a... higher power "pushed" them??? It's insane...

Some of these things will happen without SP as well. Before I used the mod, I often saw sims at the graveyard for no apparent reason, and they sometimes brought along their kids. I believe they purchased cars too, and not always the ones I'd have wanted. If you blacklist some of the cars but the game or SP decides a sim still needs a vehicle, it makes sense that they'd pick whatever was available.

The great thing about SP is that you can configure it, and much of the game by extension, exactly how you want. But that means you actually need to take the time to configure it. I've only been using it for around six months and am still figuring things out, but it's been easy to identify a behavior I don't like and then fix the settings to prevent it going forward. (Retuner is helpful too.) It does take some experimenting, but once you have everything set up the way you like, you can export your mod settings and import them into new saves, so you never need to start from scratch.

puzzlezaddict, I have "blacklisted" the vehicles that would look ridiculous to my eyes if I saw a sim drive them (exactly like the Uni moving van). I have "blacklisted" the all the ITF vehicles for example... Why would sims need a hoover car in Sunset Valley and how ridiculous would look if they had one? The usual cars are all there for them to get (Sloppy Jalopy, Big Lemon, Bwan Speedster, Margaret Vaguester and many decent looking ones), cheaper or more expensive but SP insists on giving them the most peculiar ones for no reason at all! But I do whatever I can do and I move on with trial and error. Whenever I see a sim drive something weird I switch to their household and give them a normal car.
But now I have the other problem which I don't know if it comes from SP or it was there before I got the mod and I hadn't noticed it because I was playing only one household and I didn't look around the town too much. I made a post in Chatterbox about it, most of the inactive sims no matter what vehicle they have, they prefer to swim around their world as if they were mermaids. I have no idea how to stop that but maybe I'll start a new game without SP and see if that's another "push" the mod loves to give to my sims only to get to my nerves or the sims would "travel" by seas and rivers anyway...

I just disallow inactives from buying vehicles at all by requiring them to be inordinately wealthy to buy one. Most inactives never get wealthy enough, so that's the end of that. If I want them to have a car or a bicycle, I buy them one when I play them, trying to take into account the kind of vehicle I think they would want, and what they can afford. A lot of households in town never get cars because I don't bother, and that's fine with me.

Occasionally one of my rotation households gets wealthy enough that they buy a car while I'm playing another household, but for some reason it's always the big black bus from...late night, maybe? I just let them keep it, because it's better than a hover-vehicle.

natbsim75 wrote: ↑

September 7th, 2021, 11:29 am

The poor kids were sleeping on the kitchen floor because there was literally no place for a crib (let's forget getting two of them!). I figured that she wanted to move in another house and that's what I did (I have disallowed all kinds of moves in SP settings because it was getting ridiculous, everyone was moving around for no reason at all!).

I always thought that this disaster should stop with SP. Well, at least with the right settings, and that's why I prefer SP by nraas rather than SP by EA (I mean those moments when I prefer dynamic in the world). I also, like you, want to end these pointless moves of sims, but I also remember that somewhere in this mod there is a check of the necessary beds for living. Here, check if these options are enabled in your game.

Sara_Darkees, I always know when babies are born in my worlds and I know in which condition their house is, I mean if there is enough space, cribs, beds (for when they get older) e.t.c. Especially in Riverview that we are talking about, all the new babies have the same father: Don Lothario, whom I put in the world (after I used MC's total annihilation to get rid of the pathetic sim EA has placed there "pretending" to be the original sims 2 Don, lol!). In 2 sim-weeks he is responsible for 7 babies (2 set of twins and 3... solo!). I have replaced woohoo with risky woohoo (30%) and Don throws a... party everytime he has to pay child support, lol!
Although, I have to point here that the default setting for child support in SP was too unfair and I changed it the moment I finally figured out what's happenning. First of all, SP always makes Don the town Casanova (I know because I play him in other worlds too), once or twice I tried to make him the town's Gigolo but SP didn't accept it (weird, lol!) and everytime SP claims that everyone who has "children out of wedlock", refuses to pay child support and care for the kids, the mod throws the sims in jail and it demotes them in their jobs... Really now? What is this? Moral police? It reminds me a lot of EA's celebrity system and the "publicly discraced" moodlet because sims have children without being married or they woohooed with an occult (even if said "occult" is their spouse!).
In Sunset Valley, I was playing Jared Frio's household, he always rolled wishes to visit the daughter he had with Claire Ursine, SP took money from his family funds even when I was playing their household and the moment I switched to another family, Jared was thrown in jail and demoted because he allegedly denied to pay for his daughter...
Gino Ferrari in Monte Vista (he was the town gigolo) had reached the top of the culinary career and his LTW to be a celebrity chef and in two sim-weeks SP kept demoting him (again for not paying child support) until he reached the sous-chef level. The first setting I found was about the child support fees so I set it to "0", which I find disgusting because, of cource, a father has to support his children even if they don't live in the same house but SP's way was even worse! And then I unistalled the SP personalities... Today, after a loooot of reading about the SP's interactions and settings, I finally found out how to set it to not demote the sims or throw them in jail and only take the money they are supposed to pay for their kids! I consider it a success, lol!

EA's SP is a joke. When I'm not playing with nraas SP I prefer to not have story progression at all. It only brings in the worlds fugly sims, no one is getting in relationships, no children are born, sims are not promoted in their jobs... The last time I played with EA's (joke of) SP in Sunset Valley, Thorton Wolff (magically) disappeared, Morgana left their house, moved in a starter home and (also magically) left her job and became an acrobat! Also, during one night Connor Frio disappeared too, Jared was (magically) found with twin babies (yeah! right! Jared adopted kids all alone, lol!) and Xander Clavell got a baby the same night too! The poor babies didn't even have a mother in their family tree, they only had their fathers (EA's weird genetics, lol!)...

natbsim75 wrote: ↑

September 8th, 2021, 3:11 pm

Especially in Riverview that we are talking about, all the new babies have the same father: Don Lothario, whom I put in the world (after I used MC's total annihilation to get rid of the pathetic sim EA has placed there "pretending" to be the original sims 2 Don, lol!).

I haven't been to Riverview in ages, and Don Lothario was just an extra in my play, but I'll ask anyway. What exactly didn't please you with the original Don from TS3?

Anyway I probably play very boring even with SP. Maybe because I still like to keep the situation under strict control. No strange personalities, no children out of wedlock, and the joint life of sims with someone new are allowed only after the wedding, but first the sims must really get along well. And all this seems to take quite a long time, so I have no natural population growth, at least not yet...

natbsim75 wrote: ↑

September 8th, 2021, 3:11 pm

EA's SP is a joke. When I'm not playing with nraas SP I prefer to not have story progression at all. It only brings in the worlds fugly sims, no one is getting in relationships, no children are born, sims are not promoted in their jobs... The last time I played with EA's (joke of) SP in Sunset Valley, Thorton Wolff (magically) disappeared, Morgana left their house, moved in a starter home and (also magically) left her job and became an acrobat! Also, during one night Connor Frio disappeared too, Jared was (magically) found with twin babies (yeah! right! Jared adopted kids all alone, lol!) and Xander Clavell got a baby the same night too! The poor babies didn't even have a mother in their family tree, they only had their fathers (EA's weird genetics, lol!)...

By the way, with SP by EA, I had a bunch of random children in my town, sims got married, divorced, moved and disappeared for no apparent reason. Besides, according to the EA standard, teens can't get married, polygamous marriages are also forbidden in this game, but this disgusting SP of theirs has bypassed its own prohibitions!

Sara_Darkees, sims 3 is the first sims game I ever played (since 2010) but when Origin released the sims 2 Ultimate Collection I had to have it and from 2014 I love sims 2 almost as much as I love sims 3 (sims 4 is the other joke along with sims 3 SP, lol!). Don Lothario and the Caliente sisters (I use total annihiliation for them too whenever I play in Barnacle Bay) are adults in the sims 2 because young adults exist only in university. Have you seen the sims-wiki page for Don? On top there is his sims 2 photo and a little further down the page there is his sims 3 photo. In the sims 2, Don is over-confident (too much for his own good, I would say!) he never thinks that he does anything wrong and this attitude shows on his face expression. Sims 3 Don's face (even though he is a young adult in this game) reminds me of a sad elder who hates his life and patiently waits for Grim Reaper's visit, lol! I have never played with "original" sims 3 Don because he can't convince me that he is the real Don...
About the Caliente sisters, in the sims 3 EA made them like they are the same sim with different hair color. Someone should tell to whomever created them that twins are not the same person, they just look alike (sometimes). Nina Caliente in the sims 2 is not "childish", she is not "hot-headed" and she is not a "mooch". She has the Romance aspiration but in the same time, she is very shy and to me it means that she is a "hopeless romantic" at heart. Also she is very "neat" to the point that she can make someone mad and call her a "neat-freak" (I know I have, lol!), she is very serious and very "active" (what we call "athletic" in the sims 3). Dina is the total oposite: She is too lazy, she is a slob, she is too outgoing and she is very playful (she can have the "childish" trait, in the sims 2 she can "lose" herself in buthtubs for hours playing pirates, lol!). Also, from where this cousin (Luisa Libros) who lives with them, came from? They don't have cousins in the sims 2 and they definitely don't have their sims 4 "mother"!

About EA's SP, when I don't play with Nraas SP, I prefer to turn off aging and play with the sims that already exist in my worlds. I have a mod from ShimRod that disallows sims to move out of town and also disallows mermaids in all my worlds except the premade ones in Isla Paradiso. Because EA never put mermaids in the population control like the other occults and the result was all my towns to be filled with mermaids, so I had to uninstall the EP. I was so happy when I found this mod, now no one moves away (I hated this "message" back in the day "the Goth family is moving out of town, say your goodbyes and take back any books you have lent them") and there are no more sims with green and blue scales (and having one of their traits changed to "evil"!) walking around Sunset Valley!
What did EA's SP do to your game to bypass its own prohibitions?

natbsim75 wrote: ↑

September 8th, 2021, 6:49 pm

Sara_Darkees, sims 3 is the first sims game I ever played (since 2010) but when Origin released the sims 2 Ultimate Collection I had to have it and from 2014 I love sims 2 almost as much as I love sims 3 (sims 4 is the other joke along with sims 3 SP, lol!). Don Lothario and the Caliente sisters (I use total annihiliation for them too whenever I play in Barnacle Bay) are adults in the sims 2 because young adults exist only in university. Have you seen the sims-wiki page for Don? On top there is his sims 2 photo and a little further down the page there is his sims 3 photo. In the sims 2, Don is over-confident (too much for his own good, I would say!) he never thinks that he does anything wrong and this attitude shows on his face expression. Sims 3 Don's face (even though he is a young adult in this game) reminds me of a sad elder who hates his life and patiently waits for Grim Reaper's visit, lol! I have never played with "original" sims 3 Don because he can't convince me that he is the real Don...

I'd love to dive into the world of TS2 one day, but I'm strongly repelled by the existing official localization of this game... For example, when I hear "Pleasantview" I imagine some small, quiet, but prestigious american town, but in our case it is "Novoselsk", and in this case I imagine some poor russian outback. And this is a trifle compared to other manifestations of the creativity of our localizers

natbsim75 wrote: ↑

September 8th, 2021, 6:49 pm

Also, from where this cousin (Luisa Libros) who lives with them, came from?

Wait, what? Another localization problem? In my case, she is just their friend (but I'd think that they are using her just to look cooler against her background). By the way, I left these girls on their place in Barnacle Bay, however, I slightly changed their image... There is an interesting pirate and fishing theme in this world, so why do only a small part of the population look like real pirates, and the rest are dressed somehow cheap and ugly?

natbsim75 wrote: ↑

September 8th, 2021, 6:49 pm

About EA's SP, when I don't play with Nraas SP, I prefer to turn off aging and play with the sims that already exist in my worlds. I have a mod from ShimRod that disallows sims to move out of town and also disallows mermaids in all my worlds except the premade ones in Isla Paradiso. Because EA never put mermaids in the population control like the other occults and the result was all my towns to be filled with mermaids, so I had to uninstall the EP. I was so happy when I found this mod, now no one moves away (I hated this "message" back in the day "the Goth family is moving out of town, say your goodbyes and take back any books you have lent them") and there are no more sims with green and blue scales (and having one of their traits changed to "evil"!) walking around Sunset Valley!

Hm... If I want stability, I just disable any SP. But even after the installed IP, my town wasn't filled with mermaids. However, I know when they appear: if there's a place for diving in the world. I had this lot a short time, or rather, I built it myself. Then I was a little disappointed with the result (because the result was also a routing problem) and went back a few saves ago. And I noticed something interesting, that is, mermaids appeared in the world only under certain situation.

natbsim75 wrote: ↑

September 8th, 2021, 6:49 pm

What did EA's SP do to your game to bypass its own prohibitions?

This is quite a funny and infuriating story, at least about polygamous marriages. As I have already said, I really like stability, control... And sometimes I also like to build. And one day I decided to build a resort in Roaring Heights. I just had to get the best out of the IP! After some failures like errors, resets, routing problems and other things, I succeeded and sent my wards to rest. Suddenly, during a pleasant pastime, I saw a group of sims in official suits... And then the two men got married under the wedding arch. Well, I was happy for them, although I didn't remember seeing them together before. The next day I saw the same procession again, but under the wedding arch one of yesterday's husbands had already found someone new. At first I thought that he was disappointed in yesterday's husband and so quickly decided to try someone new, but no... He just got married again without a divorce. By the way, absolutely any SP in that situation were disabled. In the end, I found a solution and it seems that I can breathe calmly, but even so I'm not completely sure that this addon will not bring unpleasant surprises again. I understand why you uninstalled this addon, but I'm not giving up yet