Might be interference by another non-NRaas mod (easy to test, take them all out and clear the script cache) or possibly a patch level issue if Sara is still on a patch level prior to 1.63 as I think she was until at least recently?

igazor, you remember correctly about my version of the game, but I admit the possibility that this may be a conflict with the nraas mod. After reading about the changes to the autonomy on that site, I saw that almost everything I had already done was through the Retuner. Maybe that's why I'm having trouble? My other non-nraas modifications are also time-tested and don't make major changes.

The Retuner issue is just as easy to test as the rest of them. Try a test run of the game (don't save it) without Retuner but with bluegen's mod and see if the missing interactions return.

Retuner loads much later in the startup process than tuning mods, so if it hits the same tuning resources as bluejen's it's always going to "win." The more complicated question though can be what kind of unintended combinations of tuning changes does one wind up with when using a mod and Retuner that each overlap the others' territory but also go on to change other things on their own.

Okay, if the Retuner really didn't pin all my settings even after deleting, then there is no conflict. Maybe this is really some kind of problem in the version. The author wrote something about updating their mods, but I didn't understand enough what happened there. Purely in theory, my Retuner settings should be enough for the desired result, but in practice everything is different. Also, I have an assumption that a lot depends on the level of relationships and on the traits of the characters. But it is very strange when the sims in the sympathy stage did more than in the official romance stage. I can imagine that their love has exhausted itself even before the wedding, but it upsets me

It's really difficult to discount the patch version issue. A LOT of changes were made in 1.63 in particular and bluegen's mod is going to assume that is ITUN file that the game is carrying. The later patches (1.67, 1.69, 1.70 as far as we know) didn't change that resource.

The version of Retuner you are using I take it (correctly) assumes an earlier version of the ITUN file. I just don't think they are going to work well together, or in the case of bluegen's mod, possibly not at all.

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February 27th, 2021, 8:26 pm

The version of Retuner you are using I take it (correctly) assumes an earlier version of the ITUN file. I just don't think they are going to work well together, or in the case of bluegen's mod, possibly not at all.

I looked at the old archived nraas website, where the mod versions are written. The Retuner was specified for versions 1.55-1.69. In theory, everything is fine here. There were no changes in this part.

The ITUN file changed. That is the target of all game tuning. It doesn't matter if the scripted mechanism to interface with it changed or not, and that is what Retuner is.

Blues mods are all fully updated to 1.67/1.69. I don't believe older versions were left up.

I'd like the update to bring 100% success in solving the problem, but... I don't quite understand what the author did that I didn't do. Well, if we talk about changes in the autonomy settings. I'm afraid that in the end this mod will work, but those desired interaction still will not be performed. Everything is already set up for self-use, just even in spite of this, the sims ignore some interactions. By the way, I'd like to try another alternative, but I'd like to ask something. The Retuner contains the "Interaction Autonomy" option. I'd like to use it, but I'd like to make an exception for a couple of objects. Is it possible?

I'd also like to place some hopes on SP. Does this mod push inactive sims to interact, or does it just generate a transition to the next stage of the relationship?

Are we talking about the More Romantic Autonomy mod by bluegenjutsu? I've been using it lately and there is a little weirdness. Mostly in the form of inactives spamming one interaction over and over with my actives, which is not such a big deal with little things, except when they Try For Baby over and over, with no actions in between, completely ignoring the 75-minute cooldown I have set with Woohooer, until everybody is pregnant.

But I'm also noticing some interactions aren't available when I know they should be, which might be what Sara_Darkees is seeing as well. This wasn't completely unexpected since there's some crossover with the settings in that mod and Retuner, and maybe Woohooer and SP. I'm still giving it a chance, but I probably won't keep the mod in forever unless I start seeing more autonomous romance.

I'm definitely seeing some friendly interactions between inactives (and between inactives and actives) that I haven't seen them do autonomously before, so that makes me really happy. But still, no more romantic autonomy than I usually see. However, from what I understand about the mod, sims still have to be in the "extremely irresistible" short term context to propose (going steady or marriage). Most of my inactives who compulsively flirt long enough to be "irresistible" are already married. And it seems like inactive sims get distracted by guitars and water-balloon fights and werewolf toddlers too easily to stay irresistible for very long.