No "First Kiss" option?

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No "First Kiss" option?

Post by indignantgirl » July 13th, 2020, 8:42 pm

My daughter is trying a "do everything (traits, aspirations, romantic partners, friends, job, etc) completely different/opposite of how you've ever done them before" kind of challenge and it's been particularly challenging because of doing the "master romancer" challenge for one of her sims and not being able to get a First Kiss interaction under any menu. Her sim tried with many, MANY other sims and the STC should have definitely been there as everything else was there. She could even Propose Go Steady and Offer Massage, and ask to break up with their girlfriend, which usually shows up about First Kiss time. I mean, not to brag but I know how to get a First Kiss in Sunset Valley and after a couple of hours of trying, I still couldn't figure it out. XD

I used the "show debug" with Woohooer and First Kiss didn't show up, even then. (Other stuff showed up greyed out that should, such as Jetpack Woohoo, Propose Marriage, etc.".) Can anyone, off the top of their heads, think of what could be interfering with a First Kiss showing up, even in debug? I know there's further troubleshooting I can do but sometimes there's an easy answer and I'm hoping for that first. :D

I tried a couple of other things though, such as turn off link to Story Progression, and turn off trait scoring. I just had the hard drive replaced last week so it's a fresh installation (although I did copy over all her mods and saves and stuff). I also imported all the nraas Overwatch setttings I always do and it all looks good. Oh, and we don't have any other relationship/romance mods.

**Aaaaand, just as I'm writing this, my daughter said she was able to get a first kiss to show up for the first time in since we reinstalled everything, but at that point she was ready to quit so I couldn't check it out. I had set link to SP back to True, but had left trait-scoring off; could it have been trait-scoring after all? I know First Kiss didn't show up (debug or regular) right after I turned it off, no matter how hard we tried, but maybe it took a little while to kick in? Is that a thing that can happen?

I'm still going to look it over because I'm still not sure it's the trait-scoring, but if anybody has any ideas of what else to look for, I'd appreciate it.

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Post by JohnL83 » July 13th, 2020, 10:36 pm

Having certain options not show up for sims seems to happen now and then. I've had this occur a few times. Right now I have an adult sim who can't seem to feed his toddler twins! Every other action for toddlers appears, but nothing about feeding. The mom, the grandparents and older siblings and even friends visiting can all feed the twins. But every time I've tried to get dad to feed them the options never show up for him. I tried debug and resetting and even checked family tree thinking somehow that may have gotten buggy, but it's all fine.

IDK what's going on. It just seems like now and then, for whatever reason, certain actions just don't show up for some sims and then suddenly they do. :huh:

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Post by igazor » July 14th, 2020, 1:40 am

You know, some of what you guys are reporting might just be intended. There are some dads in this world who not only think toddlers are self-sufficient, but feel they should be out there earning their keep, contributing their earnings to the household funds, and should be taking turns preparing and serving dinner to the rest of the hard-working household instead of demanding to be waited upon as if they were lords and ladies of the manor or something. There might be some overlap between these parents of the year and those who think two sims should be dating and getting to know one another for around ten or fifteen years no matter what their official partnership status is before they should even be thinking about kissing. :evil:

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Post by indignantgirl » July 14th, 2020, 7:35 pm

Ah, but see, she was then forced to click on the woohoo location and force a "one night stand" situation. Apparently there's a moodlet for that! And you don't automatically become romantic interests! Which, you know, it seems like those "get to know one another" folks would frown upon that even more. So they're really shooting themselves in the foot with that "no first kiss" nonsense.

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Post by JohnL83 » July 15th, 2020, 9:53 am

igazor wrote:
July 14th, 2020, 1:40 am
There are some dads in this world who not only think toddlers are self-sufficient, but feel they should be out there earning their keep, contributing their earnings to the household funds
Their tiny fingers would be great at making smartphones, Get those freeloaders to work! :P

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No "First Kiss" option?

Post by 0417 » August 20th, 2020, 12:07 pm

I'm having the same problem. "Confess Attraction" is gone as well.

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Post by Chain_Reaction » August 20th, 2020, 2:26 pm

0417 wrote:
August 20th, 2020, 12:07 pm
I'm having the same problem. "Confess Attraction" is gone as well.
If you enable debugging in woohooer, do they show? If so hover on them. What does the tooltip say?

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No "First Kiss" option?

Post by 0417 » January 12th, 2021, 7:40 pm

Chain_Reaction wrote:
August 20th, 2020, 2:26 pm
0417 wrote:
August 20th, 2020, 12:07 pm
I'm having the same problem. "Confess Attraction" is gone as well.
If you enable debugging in woohooer, do they show? If so hover on them. What does the tooltip say?
I ended up solving the problem by uninstalling Woohooer, but I reinstalled it and the problem is back. The interactions won't appear in debug mode, even though other things that shouldn't do. (For example, jetpack woohoo appears even though the sims are still acquaintances and I don't have Into the Future installed.) I don't want to uninstall it again because I plan to have a household with more than 8 sims.

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Post by Chain_Reaction » January 13th, 2021, 5:38 am

Remove all mods but ours. Any change in behavior?

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Post by 0417 » January 14th, 2021, 9:24 am

Chain_Reaction wrote:
January 13th, 2021, 5:38 am
Remove all mods but ours. Any change in behavior?
No. The only fix I've found is removing Woohooer.

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