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Post by TheMoronicalClown96 » November 5th, 2019, 1:29 pm

Sorry, it’s a two question post.😋

How’d I go about allowing only straight couples and lesbian couples to have children? How I have it set up currently, is that all can, but I wish to remove male/male pregnancy. As I haven’t played in a while, I seem to have forgot which caste settings I must change. And messing around with it, I may have turned pregnancy of entirely as I’m getting pregnancy notifications, but nobody is is pregnant. That may be down to my snail speed, I don’t know.

And my second question is that I’ve changed the baby/toddler age to the lowest in ageing to the next stage.. After a few days past, I noticed the toddlers are still toddlers? So I was confused. I checked them through the “MC - Status - Personal” And it showed the toddlers having minus days until ageing up, and their ageing was “Disabled”

Any help appreciated. Thanks.

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Post by igazor » November 5th, 2019, 1:49 pm

1 - Is it the case that you do not wish males to become pregnant, or only those in male-male couplings? In other words, do you want females to be able to impregnate males? If all you want is to disable pregnancy for males, then it should just be a matter of, on City Hall or an in-game computer, NRaas > SP > Caste Options > Males > Pregnancy: Allow Can Be Pregnant > False. But you would want to undo the changes you more recently made first, from the sound of it.

Or if you want to get more specific than that and allow some male pregnancies under some circumstances, we can address the other SP options. If you are using Woohooer, then Woohooer > Try for Baby > Species: Human (and then the others) > Autonomous Male-Male Try for Baby > should also be False; this is the default but it won't even show up unless Allow Same Sex Try for Baby is True.

2 - You should be able to force an age-up on these sims by way of MC. But the issue is probably that their age managers are temporarily broken if the age stage lengths were changed on them while they were already toddlers and the change left them in the "wrong" stage for what was their current total age. It's actually not generally a good idea to change age stage lengths that when a game save is already in progress.

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Post by TheMoronicalClown96 » November 5th, 2019, 6:16 pm

Thanks for the reply, Igazor. And it’s just as you said, I don’t want males to become pregnant, but still participate with females. So yeah, just have “Pregnancy: Allow Can Be Pregnant” to false for the male caste? And change nothing else?

These were already made toddler sims.. I have ageing on epic, and wanted to shorten them. Should have just left them, really. Maybe if I reset them back to the original amount of days until age up, it may revert it?

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Post by igazor » November 5th, 2019, 7:53 pm

TheMoronicalClown96 post_id=69866 time=1572995808 user_id=19562 wrote: Thanks for the reply, Igazor. And it’s just as you said, I don’t want males to become pregnant, but still participate with females. So yeah, just have “Pregnancy: Allow Can Be Pregnant” to false for the male caste? And change nothing else?
It's difficult to answer "And change nothing else" when we don't know exactly how you have things arranged now. Males cannot be pregnant by default. So if we were starting out with SP's default caste settings, there wouldn't be anything to change except to allow females to impregnate other females. Though that involves only the female caste settings (and potentially Woohooer), not the male caste. In other words, I think it depends on how exactly you arranged it so that everyone can impregnate everyone else and then what you did with the settings since then.
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These were already made toddler sims.. I have ageing on epic, and wanted to shorten them. Should have just left them, really. Maybe if I reset them back to the original amount of days until age up, it may revert it?
If the toddlers' age managers are broken, then changing the age span settings on them again probably isn't going to fix that (though I supposed it's worth a try). Changing the age span settings back and then reverting to a save before the change ever happened might be more effective, if it's possible and not a hated solution for other reasons.

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Post by TheMoronicalClown96 » November 6th, 2019, 12:30 am

I don’t know if you remember, Igazor. But I had the settings you sent, and I enabled them through Overwatch? You sent them to me to attempt to fix a different issue. I can tell you what you had, and what I use tomorrow when I get on game? If I remember the female caste was blank, but there were edits to the male caste.

And about the toddlers ageing, I shouldn’t have messed around with it.😋

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Post by igazor » November 6th, 2019, 12:43 am

I play with females being allowed to be impregnated by either gender and males by other males only. From there then, to disallow male pregnancy

Caste Options > Males > Pregnancy: Allow Can Be Pregnant > False (as already mentioned)
Caste Options > Males > Pregnancy: Allow Can Be Pregnant Caste > (blank)
Caste Options > Males > Pregnancy: Disallow Can Be Pregnant Caste > (blank)
Caste Options > Males > Pregnancy: Allow Participation Caste > Females
Caste Options > Males > Pregnancy: Disallow Participation Caste > Males (or blank, now I'm getting confused!)

And let's see how that goes.

In order to blank a caste setting, use Caste Options > Males > Reset to Defaults > (the setting in question) as simply selecting it again can leave an unwanted "--" or negative number value behind.

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Post by TheMoronicalClown96 » November 6th, 2019, 8:11 am

Right, that's done. We shall see.. And I get the confusion - too many blanks. And as you've set up females to impregnated by other females, I noticed the female caste hasn't been edited at all. I never knew they were allowed by default? The more you know.. xD

And the settings you had under the male caste were: allow: participation and allow: can be pregnant - both set to true and you had it set up, I think, so that men could impregnate men, but females could not. I think it was:

Allow: can be pregnant caste - males - allowed
Disallow: can be pregnant caste - females - disallowed

I've now just put your settings back, and made those changes you made back to default under the male caste, and went into WooHooer and changed all the automatous risky, try for a baby and WooHoo off.

As said above, you did not touch the females, so they should still be able to be impregnated by other females, yes?

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Post by TheMoronicalClown96 » November 9th, 2019, 1:16 am

igazor, the pregnancy issue is fine, thanks for the help with that.

The ageing issue is now not just for toddlers, every other sim bar my playable sim can’t age, as ageing for them is disabled. Despite having ageing on in settings.

Another side question: Weight.. I usually mess around with it at the start of a save, and the Sims I do that too, I guess I’ve been doing it wrong. Like I want that to be their permanent genetic weight, but I I've changing their temporary weight instead, I had no idea. How can I make them have the same genetic and temp’ weights? So they revert back after, but also have that weight at the start of the save.. best of both kinda thing.😋
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Post by igazor » November 9th, 2019, 2:05 am

Afraid I don't think we have a solution here for townwide (or almost so) aging managers being broken by changing the length of age spans on a game already in progress. It's not surprising that such would affect other age stages than the ones changed because doing so also changes their total life spans and the end "dates" (relative to their recorded births) of each subsequent stage.

Each sim has two weight values associated with them, temporary and genetic.

NRaas > MC > (Sim) > Intermediate > Weight > ...
-- Entering a value and checkmarking twice to accept only changes their temporary value. This is the same temporary value that can be changed, temporarily of course, by overeating and/or certain forms of exercise. It is not meant to be permanent.

--Entering a value and checkmarking once then hitting the "X" changes the sim's underlying genetic value. This is the permanent one and is very difficult to change in-game without MC as there are so few ways to do it -- weight loss surgery at the hospital is one of the very few that come to mind. And of course there is also the slider in CAS.

To make them both the same, change their genetic value first (which will not make them look any different right away) and then change their temporary one. Or the other way around, but use values like 0.25 and 0.26 that are so close to each other that you would never see the difference.

There should be a couple of dialog boxes that appear when you change weight the MC way to remind you which setting is which so you don't change the "wrong" one, though it's still kind of easy to do by mistake. Note that Fitness and its two values are handled the same way.

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Post by TheMoronicalClown96 » November 9th, 2019, 6:25 am

It seems to be like that on a new save also.. I go into the general settings and it states that Death: Ageing is enabled, so clearly a conflict with another mod, maybe? So I don’t think it’s SP’s fault. I’ll do some more looking into it.

And thanks also for the info on weight, Igazor. I appreciate it.🙂

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