Babysitters...?

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Babysitters...?

Post by JohnL83 » September 1st, 2019, 11:42 pm

Okay, there is something that has irked me for some time now, but with the dozens of other issues with this game it got lost in the fray.
Generally speaking I have managed to get good sitters for my Sims. If not I make them good sitters thru CAS by adding good traits and such. I found that giving them good social traits along with nurturing and the fam O. traits work great! In a couple of my games I actually rotate a Daycare family, so I use that for my other Sims toddlers and babies and it generally works fine, if someone is actually home...but as usual...I digress.:oops:

My question is about sitters and I what I want to know is: What the heck is the point of getting the option to "ask to hang out", "Fire", "Dismiss", etc the sitters if they auto leave the second my sim gets home? What stupid kind of thing is that anyway?? I've had a couple that I wanted to have my sim beat the crap out of because they were so horrible! One sitter took an instant dislike to two of my Sims four kids (the other two are toddlers of course or you don't even get sitter options) and was constantly yelling at them for nothing! Meanwhile the toddlers are screaming bloody murder. starving and sitting in soiled diapers. Thankfully the kid not getting cussed out went to feed her sister and brother, (so sweet btw) but they remained soiled until I finally brought the parents home and tried once again to confront the sitter. IDK why I even bothered because I've NEVER been able to so much as say hello to them! Is there some Nraas thing I can do to actually interact with babysitters and why in the world did EA think people wouldn't want to do this and yet still give us the click options to do so??? What kind of parent wouldn't need to interact with their child's baby sitter? Or have I been doing something wrong all this time and that is why I can't interact with them?

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Post by igazor » September 2nd, 2019, 2:59 am

If you cannot get the babysitters to stay put long enough to use Ask to Hang Out on them, you should be able to cut into their having to leave right away routine with a DE object reset on the sitters. That should clear their action queue but, if you invoke it before they leave the lot, still leave them as lot greeted and able to be interacted with. If they still manage to "get away," perhaps MC > Invite Over will bring them back to you. Some Service Sims will have social interactions blocked on them individually, that can be worked through by using the DE > Sim > Enable Socials on them when you see this has happened.

Alternatively I suppose you could call for a sitter and, if the same horrible one shows up, use Ask to Hang Out without ever leaving the lot that time and then do what you want with them socially (up to a point). But that way seems a bit hit and miss.

I have to say though that leaving your kids in the care of a stranger on whom you have never done background or reference checks (really, is it that difficult to use MC on a sim to see their trait list, pulling them into a full version of CAS should not be necessary) doesn't sound like a really good parenting technique to me. But what do I know, I've never raised any kids and the closest I ever got to this scene was being the actual babysitter when I was a teen myself. :)

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Post by JohnL83 » September 2nd, 2019, 3:09 pm

igazor post_id=68547 time=1567407583 user_id=6716 wrote: I have to say though that leaving your kids in the care of a stranger on whom you have never done background or reference checks (really, is it that difficult to use MC on a sim to see their trait list, pulling them into a full version of CAS should not be necessary) doesn't sound like a really good parenting technique to me.
I have to agree, and I have always checked them out. BTW I only pull them into CAS if I need to change a trait. I hate doing it with "MC> Advanced> change trait" because the list is so long and and it just seems easier to do it in CAS, and I often need to fix outfits too since they are sometimes in strange clothing. I don't allow kepto's to watch the kids, or slobs or any other negative trait.
IDK why this otherwise perfectly good sim babysitter is constantly starting fights with my two sim children. She's a YA and is; Neat, Charismatic, Fam Oriented, Social Butterfly, and nurturing. I'm thinking it has to do with the fact these two children in question have incompatible traits with her. The boy has the slob trait and the girl is grumpy. But I've watched them and every time it's the sitter who starts the argument. When it's the child I let the sitter do what they must (within reason) I don't easily resort to violence IRL or in Sims, but I have had to defend a child IRL from adults (they have been related children or god-children) and with my Sims it's fun to live out a few RL fantasies of dusting up some jerk who's let a toddler sit starving or in soiled diapers for hours or in a few rare cases, slapped one of my Sims teens.

That said, I did some more research on this and I did manage to find an old post in the Sims forum (someone had asked a very similar question) and it was mentioned you can use all of those interactions if you call the sitter before you leave or while your older Sims are still on the lot and they will not leave until you dismiss them. I've always gone the lazy route and had the older Sims just leave and call the sitter once prompted. So I guess it WAS something I was doing wrong. LOL I'm glad to know this because I couldn't for the life of me understand why those actions were listed if I could never use them.

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Post by igazor » September 2nd, 2019, 4:14 pm

FYI, if you use the MC command to pull up the trait list and sort (click on the column heading once or twice) by Has, then the ones the sim has will stick together and you don't have to scroll through the entire list. Or you could do an MC > Family Tree then hover the mouse over their thumbnail or do a MC > Status command on them, just to get a quick view of the traits they do have without changing them right away.

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