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Rejected woohoo?

Post by JohnL83 » November 14th, 2018, 4:14 pm

The liking gate is full, there appear to be no other love interests, there are no moodlets showing betrayal or upset, they have been flirting and making out for at least a sim hour, their needs are reasonably full and yet a married couple (or any sim-couple) will not woohoo? Specifically they reject only that advance but seem perfectly willing for every other romantic interaction?  What exactly causes this to happen? (nothing wrong with beds or the home they are in either) I keep thinking there must have been a flirt or something at some point that I missed, I know of one or two occasions where my sims auto-flirted with another and the partner stays upset with them even though nothing would show the player this is the case. But in those cases they wont even allow flirting. What I'm refering to is when they only reject woohoo. 
Sometimes I'm fine with it (we all have or moments when we just aren't in the mood to take it further) and will move on to something else, other times it's been very irritating with couples who have been together awhile or when I'm trying to get some other action/storyline accomplished. I'm sure there is nothing I can do about this, but I'd like to know if anyone knows why this happens?

On a side note: There have been many times I have had couples who have been newly dating who will reject even the slightest romantic advance the next morning. In fact this seems to happen quite a bit and I'm not sure why of this either?   It can be kinda funny sometimes, especially when a sim just sleeps with another sim and then rejects their advances the next morning. "Beat it!! it was fun but buhbye!"   LOL But I'd like to understand what is going on with the game that this happens as well. 

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Post by littlelambsy » November 14th, 2018, 5:22 pm

Until someone else comes along with a better suggestion, have you tried turning on Debugger in Woohoo and mousing over the woohoo and try for baby options to see what it says? It might give you a clue to the problem.

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Post by igazor » November 14th, 2018, 7:03 pm

There's a difference between the woohoo action not being available on the menu for the player to select and the action being selectable but the target sim, the object of your active's affection, refusing anyway. The Debugger and mouse hover is only helpful when an action is not showing up.

This sounds like EA's rule set that governs woohoo scoring. The reasons for potential rejection are not always very clear (if there are any real reasons). Many of us find Woohooer's Scoring module and Trait-Based Scoring to be much more realistic and less frustrating.

But I believe the OP is or was not using Woohooer, so there's a lot fewer things we can offer in that regard if this is still the case.

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Post by JohnL83 » November 14th, 2018, 9:14 pm

Nope, still have not added the woohoo mod. But Igazor is right, the option is there for both sims, but each rejects the other when the option is selected.  I suppose it's just one of those things. So irritating though! It is sorta realistic in some ways, but in most of my own expirences, if I'm not in the mood to woohoo I'm not in the mood to make out either. LOL

 will go ahead and get the woohoo mod though, I like the idea that you can hover over options to see why something isn't playing out.  I just have put it off because of having yet another mod to muttle through and set to the way I like.  It would be nice to know what the default options are in case there are some already set that bypass EA's standard. Or like many mods is everything set to EA standard, but we can change them? I read though it all once a while back and I think there was so much in there that I got intimidated. I read though almost every mod at some point, lord knows I can't remember half of what I read now. :huh:

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Post by puzzlezaddict » November 14th, 2018, 9:41 pm

I think this came up the last time we were talking about Woohooer-related functions.  The only two default settings that are different than EA standard are that teens and older can have romantic interactions (but teens still can't woohoo with anyone), and the addition of the risky-type woohoo, with a default 10% chance of pregnancy.  You can change the the teen/adult romance option under Woohooer > Romance > Allow Teen-Adult Romance; it's so easy to ignore the Risky interaction that I forgot it even existed the first time this conversation came up.

This thread has reminded me how much harder I had to work to get some of my sims to woohoo before I got the mod.  (It's probably been six years.)  I had a whole routine down for them: hit Good Friends, then start flirting, get to Irresistible, then Stroke Cheek, Whisper in Ear, then Woohoo.  It worked probably 95% of the time, with the caveat that my sims usually had the Attractive LTR by that point as well.   But that was mostly for dates, or one-night stands, depending on the game.

My married couples, on the other hand, were much easier to corral.  If someone had a rough day at work or was up all night dealing with a screaming toddler, I'd just direct them both to relax on the bed, and then half a sim-hour later, all that stress had just disappeared.  It was, and still is, quite convenient, for them and for me.

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Post by Sara_Darkees » November 15th, 2018, 3:24 am

I have to admit, I've always enjoyed your posts. I didn't have a good morning, but you made me laugh. You know, I read this and I think you're a soulless puppeteer. What if one of your sims has a headache? What if one of them has holey socks? And suddenly they just want pure romance, and you  cheapen everything? Have you thought about it? No? Of course, you only think about yourself!
But seriously, I noticed that the behavior of Sims depends on sexual orientation, which can be adjusted using the settings of the MС. I have the situation exactly the opposite. If I need to forbid my Sims all sorts of romantic interactions, then I put a sharply negative value, concerning the attractiveness to a particular sex.

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Post by JohnL83 » November 15th, 2018, 10:24 am

Sara_Darkees - :-)  I try to remain humorous lest I allow senseless anger or frustration to ruin my day. As for orientation, I always make sure that my interacting sims have similar taste. I have half my town set as gay or bisexual so I often have to check with new interactions if I forget who leans what way. :-)

Puzzlezaddict - yes, now that you say that I think I remember having this discussion. Thanks for the refresh though and this time I wrote it down on my sims,'keep track of the stuff I need to know', notebook. LOL  I also often have to write down which sim is dating who in my various games because I can't even keep my real life family straight half the time. 

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