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NameList won't work

Post by peugeot308 » March 23rd, 2024, 2:51 pm

Hi guys,

I tried to install the "NameList_Ultimate_Names" but it doesnt work in game, i followed every step but nothing work, my game is in french, is that a problem ?

The game still uses the horrible french EA's names for new immigrant, i changed everything in the Story Progression option thing ( Sims and lots/Emigration-immigration/activate custom names and deactivate binfamily's names) , its frustrating to have sims named "Jean-Charles Bidet" in the middle of Riverview...

Please help !

Edit: do i have to translate the package myself ?

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NameList won't work

Post by C-Dark » March 24th, 2024, 2:46 pm

There was another thread where name lists do not work.

I haven't tested yet, because I name all my sims manually at birth (I get a prompt then) and this needs some setting to adjust too.

So I hope there is someone here already using functional name lists successfully and can assist.
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Post by CardinalSims » March 25th, 2024, 12:23 am

After working on my own name list for Riverview, I've found that the misleading part of the FAQ is that it's for a specific context that isn't enabled by default (Immigration at the Options:Lot level) and not necessarily related to enforcing the custom name list globally, which is what most people are asking for.

The service sims that will spawn regardless of immigration options are actually influenced by the Options:Sims immigration, which doesn't get referenced by the FAQ for custom name list issues.
Here are the settings I personally found relevant when setting up my town to use my namelist:

NRaas StoryProgression and StoryProgression Population required.
If starting from a new game:
1. Enable StoryProgression when prompted and accept homeless deletion. Unpause the game and allow it to run until the game clock is moving smoothly.

If starting from an existing save:
1. Load the game and unpause until the game clock is running smoothly. Check that NRaas > StoryProgression > General Options > Enable Progression is set to TRUE.
Optionally, use MasterController's Total Annihilation on any sims that generated with bad names.

2. Pause the game. On a computer or City Hall, StoryProgression > General Options > Options: Sims > Options:Immigration/Emigration change these options:
Use Custom Names Only - True
Replace Service Sims With Immigrants - True
Replace NPC Roommates With Immigrants - True
Immigrant Name - Random
Chance of Bin Offspring - 0

If you ever play with Options:Lot immigration enabled, then apply these same settings.

3. You may also want to minimise the existence of sims being generated outside of SP's influence using NRaas Register, using:
Allow Immigration - False
Allow Resident Assignment - True
Tourists > Allow Tourists - False - as some of the French names could be WA Tourists.

New service sims are using my 1950's name list, so far. Some may still slip through, depending on what situations the game itself is spawning sims- which SP has no control over naming.

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NameList won't work

Post by peugeot308 » March 25th, 2024, 1:14 pm

Tried with a new save and didnt worked, i dont know why... Still have those stupid french names..

I lauch the new save -> wait for 5secs and activate SP and the removal of homeless -> MC total annihilation to wipe all sims in the city -> allow immigration on options:sims -> use custom name only : true -> service/roomates sims as immigrants : true -> bin offsprings : 0 -> immigrants names:random -> force immigration:25 (to accelerate the process)

Is it because my game is in french ? I'm 100% they are not tourists as well.

Maybe i downloaded something wrong ? I only took the "namelist_ultimate_names" but there is also (on the same page) "NameList_Tuning" by Twallan, do i have to get this one as well to get the other one to work ? (from here : StoryProgression )

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/zy7i97qg ... pcy8o&dl=0
(this is the exported settings, first time doing this for me tho so im not sure i did it right)

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NameList won't work

Post by C-Dark » March 25th, 2024, 4:17 pm

The name list tuning is the default, where you can enter everything yourself.
Not both, only 1 name package can be used at the same time.

I don't think that the game language has anything to do with it.

Edit: I recently looked into the Ultimate name list.
There are so many names - maybe there are also the in-game chosen ones in?
Open the package with S3pe and check, if the names your rapid immigration had taken.
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Post by peugeot308 » March 25th, 2024, 4:43 pm

Ok thanks ! I only use the Ultimate name list, just asking if i needed the other one the activate it

Here are some screenshots for the names https://ibb.co/8d145kY , i'm 99% sure they are not from the tuning package...

I tried another name change mod from ModTheSims ( https://modthesims.info/d/499946/common ... t-mod.html ) and i believe it works (did some testing ) but i would like this one to work just because there is more names and surnames in it...

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Post by CardinalSims » March 25th, 2024, 5:48 pm

There isn't any solid documentation on which ones SP cannot rename, so I suppose I don't know what percentage would use custom names when the entire town was replaced.
I've been testing TAing the entire population + Rapid Immigration and I'd say 90% have the custom first names but only 1% have the surnames. I'll have to keep testing on why the surnames are always inheriting from the defaults.

In the meantime, you could use a name replacement mod like this (I see you beat me to it while I was writing this out). This replaces the name strings for all languages directly.
It's compatible to use the NRaas namelist at the same time, because they change different resources.

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Post by peugeot308 » March 26th, 2024, 9:21 am

Thanks for the replies, i tried but i believe even the names are not working not only the surnames, tbh i gave up after 2 more test-save and turned myself to the same mod you shared ! It didnt worked at first but someone on the forum of ModTheSims had an answer, you have to change something in S3PE in order for this package to work, did it and worked immediately ! Even the NPCs (lama guy of university for example) used the name and surname from the mod.

Did 2 test in a save and quick immigration, everything seemed to work !

Again, thanks for your help ! And sorry if my english isnt perfect, i'am a french speaker from Belgium.

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