Hey! Im having huge trouble with one of my saves and i was hoping one of you could help me!
So, i have a legacy save currently on gen 5, i moved into an apartment and everything was going fine. Due to the large number of sims i have after all these generations and some minor issues i installed the Overwatch mod. Ever since i did extreme lag beggan to occur. Also, my sims started to not do what i selected them to and be overall broken. After many times of closing and reopening the game (which by the way started taking longer than usual) i decided to take out cause at this point i couldnt even make my sims pick up their kids, they wouldnt do it.
Once i took it out i reloaded the game and it was as bad as before. I closed it and chose to ¨repaire¨ it on Origin. I entered again and i have a feeling that theres some kind of corruption, it started from the map view and not my sims. The household wasnt active and when i selected it to be it lagged and crashed.
Im not blaming the mod at all, im just adding it here cause it could or could not be a cause for the corruption to happen. Anyway, i would really appreciate your help, its my most important save and i love it.
(I dont know how to upload a save, if anyone can help me with that thatd be great!)
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Hi there,
There are lot of ingredients that go into keeping a very long-running game going, some have more of a positive impact than others. But there is no one single cure-all and if your game was in trouble to begin with (even if it didn't feel like it yet), just adding Overwatch isn't likely to help enough.
The complete list of NRaas mods specifically designed to enhance and preserve performance includes ErrorTrap, Overwatch, Register, Traffic, Traveler (if any form of world travel is to be used), to an extent GoHere, and MasterController for its Reset Everything function on City Hall's Town menu. We also need to stay aware of changes to our worlds' population, long-running games need to be Save Cleaned or the equivalent once in a while, overly busy and full community lots often need to be scaled back, and some custom worlds are just too large and complicated for the game to handle well for long. Then there are also system hardware limitations to take into account. Much of this is outlined here.
1 - Can we get the specs of the computer you are playing on? Processor, RAM, graphics card, hard drive size and space free. Also please, how many EPs are in play (and which ones) and what kind of install/patch level is this game on? Which world is the one where the save is giving you problems?
2 - Are there any mods from other sources in play that might be outdated, incompatible with each other, or just plain acting up? Does anything different happen if you play without CC?
3 - What is the resident population of this world? If using MasterController, on City Hall or an in-game computer NRaas > MC > Demographics > Population > "X" to dismiss the filter.
4 - From where you are now, can you retreat back to an earlier save from before the problems started or was that too long ago to be viable?
5 - Have you considered using Porter to bring a large enough portion of your town's population to another world? Or maybe Traveler to split the family off into different worlds within the same ongoing game?
That's probably enough for now, didn't mean to overwhelm you with info and questions. But Overwatch is not known to cause game corruption under anything even close to typical operating conditions. None of our mods are or they would come with a HUGE warning label.
There are lot of ingredients that go into keeping a very long-running game going, some have more of a positive impact than others. But there is no one single cure-all and if your game was in trouble to begin with (even if it didn't feel like it yet), just adding Overwatch isn't likely to help enough.
The complete list of NRaas mods specifically designed to enhance and preserve performance includes ErrorTrap, Overwatch, Register, Traffic, Traveler (if any form of world travel is to be used), to an extent GoHere, and MasterController for its Reset Everything function on City Hall's Town menu. We also need to stay aware of changes to our worlds' population, long-running games need to be Save Cleaned or the equivalent once in a while, overly busy and full community lots often need to be scaled back, and some custom worlds are just too large and complicated for the game to handle well for long. Then there are also system hardware limitations to take into account. Much of this is outlined here.
1 - Can we get the specs of the computer you are playing on? Processor, RAM, graphics card, hard drive size and space free. Also please, how many EPs are in play (and which ones) and what kind of install/patch level is this game on? Which world is the one where the save is giving you problems?
2 - Are there any mods from other sources in play that might be outdated, incompatible with each other, or just plain acting up? Does anything different happen if you play without CC?
3 - What is the resident population of this world? If using MasterController, on City Hall or an in-game computer NRaas > MC > Demographics > Population > "X" to dismiss the filter.
4 - From where you are now, can you retreat back to an earlier save from before the problems started or was that too long ago to be viable?
5 - Have you considered using Porter to bring a large enough portion of your town's population to another world? Or maybe Traveler to split the family off into different worlds within the same ongoing game?
That's probably enough for now, didn't mean to overwhelm you with info and questions. But Overwatch is not known to cause game corruption under anything even close to typical operating conditions. None of our mods are or they would come with a HUGE warning label.
Lag and corruption
Hey! Thank you so much for the very detailed steps, I really appreciate it.
1- I checked the space left in my computer and it's not a problem at all, i still have more than 300GB left. I have a Dell laptop but a very powerful one, it's always been able to run any of the sims games perfectly; this is the first time something like this happens to me. The computer seems fine, it's the game that is not working correctly. I loaded another save I had from a while ago and works great as usual, so I'm pretty confident this particular save has a problem. I read somewhere a while ago that the save allows a certain amount of space to consume to each save, and when that limit is surpassed it starts lagging and corrupting.
2- I checked all my CC, it's fine as far as i can see. I only took out one shirt that could have been causing problems and reloaded the save but everything stayed the same, i cant even play.
3- I cant see the resident population, i cannot play at all. when i load the save it starts from the map view and i can't select my active family, when i do it crashes.
4- I don't think i can go back, the last backup save i had is from 2 months ago (a lot of progress has been made since then).
Here's what i think: i believe the save after 5 generations of sims can't hold it anymore. It has not been the same save for all generations, of course. I have the traveler mod, which creates a separate save anytime you go to college or switch worlds in any form. I think maybe the family tree could be causing trouble. It's not corrupted but it is too long and intricate. The ideal thing to do would be creating a copy of the save and not have the family tree that goes back all those generations.
What can I do with that? Again, I'm really grateful for your help!
1- I checked the space left in my computer and it's not a problem at all, i still have more than 300GB left. I have a Dell laptop but a very powerful one, it's always been able to run any of the sims games perfectly; this is the first time something like this happens to me. The computer seems fine, it's the game that is not working correctly. I loaded another save I had from a while ago and works great as usual, so I'm pretty confident this particular save has a problem. I read somewhere a while ago that the save allows a certain amount of space to consume to each save, and when that limit is surpassed it starts lagging and corrupting.
2- I checked all my CC, it's fine as far as i can see. I only took out one shirt that could have been causing problems and reloaded the save but everything stayed the same, i cant even play.
3- I cant see the resident population, i cannot play at all. when i load the save it starts from the map view and i can't select my active family, when i do it crashes.
4- I don't think i can go back, the last backup save i had is from 2 months ago (a lot of progress has been made since then).
Here's what i think: i believe the save after 5 generations of sims can't hold it anymore. It has not been the same save for all generations, of course. I have the traveler mod, which creates a separate save anytime you go to college or switch worlds in any form. I think maybe the family tree could be causing trouble. It's not corrupted but it is too long and intricate. The ideal thing to do would be creating a copy of the save and not have the family tree that goes back all those generations.
What can I do with that? Again, I'm really grateful for your help!
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If you do not wish to share your computer's specs, then we will skip that part but it does preclude us from seeing the complete picture. May I please ask again which world you are working with?
Can you select a different active family from Map View? The problem here is that there isn't anything we can do with a save that refuses to load properly other than Save Clean it (not likely to help at all here). You could try adding in ErrorTrap if you don't already have it and see what happens, but usually by then, it's too late to fix anything. The mods are all Script Mods (except for ErrorTrap, which is a Core Mod) and they don't fully load until the game does and the game clock starts moving slowly smoothly. If the game can't get to that stage, then the mods are not going to be functional yet.
Are you certain there is no automatically made .backup file in the TS3 user game folder's Saves folder? If there is one there and it isn't too stale, it can be renamed to something else that ends in .sims3 and perhaps loaded up properly. The game itself makes one backup save whenever just Save is used, or Save As using the name of a save that is already there.
Sorry to deliver the information quite this way, but for the future it is best to frequently make Save As copies of an ongoing game, changing the name of the save slightly each time, so that we always have recent saves to revert to should something go wrong. That is the point of the Saver mod, it's a really annoying alarm clock reminding us to Save As throughout play and if configured to do so will suggest then next name in sequence to use. Although it's not required to use the mod to accomplish this. After a while of course we end up with too many saves that we don't need and can clean out (delete) the older ones, perhaps storing one every once in a while on a different volume or off the computer so that we also have a good save to use should the computer or its hard drive crash.
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Can you select a different active family from Map View? The problem here is that there isn't anything we can do with a save that refuses to load properly other than Save Clean it (not likely to help at all here). You could try adding in ErrorTrap if you don't already have it and see what happens, but usually by then, it's too late to fix anything. The mods are all Script Mods (except for ErrorTrap, which is a Core Mod) and they don't fully load until the game does and the game clock starts moving slowly smoothly. If the game can't get to that stage, then the mods are not going to be functional yet.
Are you certain there is no automatically made .backup file in the TS3 user game folder's Saves folder? If there is one there and it isn't too stale, it can be renamed to something else that ends in .sims3 and perhaps loaded up properly. The game itself makes one backup save whenever just Save is used, or Save As using the name of a save that is already there.
Sorry to deliver the information quite this way, but for the future it is best to frequently make Save As copies of an ongoing game, changing the name of the save slightly each time, so that we always have recent saves to revert to should something go wrong. That is the point of the Saver mod, it's a really annoying alarm clock reminding us to Save As throughout play and if configured to do so will suggest then next name in sequence to use. Although it's not required to use the mod to accomplish this. After a while of course we end up with too many saves that we don't need and can clean out (delete) the older ones, perhaps storing one every once in a while on a different volume or off the computer so that we also have a good save to use should the computer or its hard drive crash.
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I'm afraid I do not recognize any of this. Can you perhaps point us to where this has been said? Possibly something is getting lost in translation here, so to speak.
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Hey again! i think the most viable thing to do is trying to recover the backup file, see if it works and if it doesnt....i guess i wasted a year worth of progress. How can i rename it and try to use it properly?
Im honestly freaking out cuase i really dont want to loose it but i can see that theres little to nothing i can do at this point!
Im honestly freaking out cuase i really dont want to loose it but i can see that theres little to nothing i can do at this point!
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If you have a save in your Save folder called let's say MyTown.sims3.backup, then that is your game generated backup save. Change the name so that it's called SomethingElse.sims3 (change the front part so that it doesn't have the same name as a save that is already there and drop the ".backup" so that the save ends in ".sims3" (dot-sims3)
Your saves are inside of the folder called Saves, in your TS3 user game folder in Documents. The same place where you would have gone to add mods.
Your saves are inside of the folder called Saves, in your TS3 user game folder in Documents. The same place where you would have gone to add mods.
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Ok! So i changed the name of the backup file and loaded the game. It works! IIt was from 3 days before? (I have traveler, overwatch, master controller and the careers mod)
Still, it took very long to load. I think its because its a very long and old save, is there any way to sort of cut it to the current generation only so it doesnt have to make such an effort?
Still, it took very long to load. I think its because its a very long and old save, is there any way to sort of cut it to the current generation only so it doesnt have to make such an effort?