Game Performance Issue with two somewhat persistent game crashes

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Issue with two somewhat persistent game crashes

Post by dandelion212 » March 18th, 2024, 10:05 pm

Hi all,

I recently built a "retro" rig for some games that have performance/play issues on modern systems, and was curious if TS3 truly did run worse on my new laptop, or if I was just imagining things. I've been extremely pleased with the performance on this rig, most definitely with fewer glitches than my modern system, but I'm encountering some semi-consistent crashes. I'm attaching two crash logs that are more or less identical to every other crash log I get. One crash only occurrs randomly when loading items on the formal tab of a female Teen-Elder sim (either item type it loads by default; shirt or full body) and occurs about 25% of the time, the other has occured once every few hours or so during gameplay (with seemingly no regard how long the game's been up). I'm unsure if this indicates a CC/mod issue or something else. Most of the other forums focusing on the game seem to be very heavily focused on modern systems and patching/fixing the game for them and less about technical knowledge of the game so I figured here might be a better place to ask. Can provide more info if it would help; full specs/dxdiag all set to go if needed.

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[Build info]
Application: Sims3
BuildTime:   2014-01-16-1625
BuildUser:   slcbuilder
BuildHost:   SLC1-BUILD111
BuildConfig: Release
BuldVersion: 0.2.0.209
Commandline: C:\Program Files\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3\Game\Bin\TS3W.exe


[System info]
Computer name: MEGAHANDESKTOP
Computer DNS name: megahandesktop
User name: Meaghan
EA_PLATFORM: Windows on X86
OS name: Windows XP
OS version number: 5.1.2600
OS service pack: Service Pack 3
Debugger present: no
CPU count: 4
Processor type: x86
Processor level: 6
Processor revision: 14857
Memory load: 79%
Total physical memory: 3033 Mb
Available physical memory: 635 Mb
Total page file memory: 11030 Mb
Available page file memory: 8896 Mb
Total virtual memory: 2047 Mb
Free virtual memory: 129 Mb

[Application info]
Language: C++
Compiler: Microsoft Visual C++ compiler, version 1400
App path: C:\Program Files\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3\Game\Bin\TS3W.exe
App version: 0.2.0.209

[Exception info]
date: 2024-03-11
time: 23.40.26
type: ACCESS_VIOLATION reading address 0x00000014
address: 0x005ec091 "C:\Program Files\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3\Game\Bin\TS3W.exe":0x0001:0x001eb091

[Call stack]
Callstack not available

[Stack data]
0012fd20 | 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00<50>ab 53 02 00 32 ff 63 | ........P.S..2.c |
0012fd30 | 48 fe 12 00 0b 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 | H............... |
0012fd40 | 6f 12 83 3a 00 08 00 00 00 08 00 00 20 cb 66 63 | o..:........ .fc |
0012fd50 | 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 | ................ |
0012fd60 | 00 08 00 00 00 08 00 00 01 00 00 00 07 00 00 00 | ................ |
0012fd70 | 00 00 80 3f 00 00 80 3f 00 00 80 3f ba d8 90 7c | ...?...?...?...| |
0012fd80 | db a4 80 7c b8 fd 12 00 8c fd 12 00 99 9e 36 00 | ...|..........6. |
0012fd90 | 00 00 00 00 48 fe 12 00 fa 16 5f 00 00 00 00 00 | ....H....._..... |
0012fda0 | 40 5f 54 02 a0 ac 53 02 00 00 00 00 60 aa 53 00 | @_T...S.....`.S. |
0012fdb0 | a8 ab 53 02 20 28 63 17 ba d4 9b b6 18 00 00 00 | ..S. (c......... |
0012fdc0 | 00 00 00 00 50 ab 53 02 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 | ....P.S......... |
0012fdd0 | 5c 28 63 17 5a e8 6c 00 80 90 1c 39 80 90 1c 39 | \(c.Z.l....9...9 |
0012fde0 | 40 5f 54 02 60 aa 53 02 40 fe 12 00 00 00 00 00 | @_T.`.S.@....... |
0012fdf0 | 90 33 ff 63 00 00 00 00 51 59 6e 3f 00 00 00 00 | .3.c....QYn?.... |
0012fe00 | 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 | ................ |
0012fe10 | 04 00 00 00 c0 77 92 39 67 13 9c b6 18 00 00 00 | .....w.9g....... |
0012fe20 | 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ff ff ff ff 50 2e 7b 14 | ............P.{. |
0012fe30 | 70 23 53 02 00 00 00 00 6c e6 71 00 40 5f 54 02 | p#S.....l.q.@_T. |
0012fe40 | 06 8c 60 00 05 00 00 00 f0 39 54 02 59 f5 59 00 | ..`......9T.Y.Y. |
0012fe50 | b7 42 86 3c b7 42 86 3c a0 75 51 02 00 00 00 00 | .B.<.B.<.uQ..... |
0012fe60 | 7d 92 58 00 b7 42 86 3c b7 42 86 3c 55 b2 ec 00 | }.X..B.<.B.<U... |
0012fe70 | b7 42 86 3c b7 42 86 3c f4 fe 12 00 00 00 00 00 | .B.<.B.<........ |
0012fe80 | a0 75 51 02 c0 ff 12 00 90 c4 15 01 a0 75 51 02 | .uQ..........uQ. |
0012fe90 | b7 42 86 3c b7 42 86 3c 74 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 | .B.<.B.<t....... |
0012fea0 | 20 f3 f9 b4 0e 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |  ............... |
0012feb0 | 04 00 00 00 c0 77 92 39 61 c7 ec 00 01 00 00 00 | .....w.9a....... |
0012fec0 | c0 ff 12 00 70 53 23 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 | ....pS#......... |
0012fed0 | 00 00 00 00 27 b8 4e 00 f4 fe 12 00 00 00 00 00 | ....'.N......... |
0012fee0 | 70 53 23 01 01 00 00 00 3c c8 ec 00 a0 75 51 02 | pS#.....<....uQ. |
0012fef0 | 01 00 00 00 20 a0 fb 00 f0 23 51 02 00 24 51 02 | .... ....#Q..$Q. |
0012ff00 | 00 24 51 02 68 d1 1d 01 00 00 00 00 c8 9f fb 00 | .$Q.h........... |
0012ff10 | 20 76 51 02 9a 76 51 02 9c 76 51 02 a4 9f fb 00 |  vQ..vQ..vQ..... |
0012ff20 | 54 8e 1c 01 54 8e 1c 01 56 8e 1c 01 a4 9f fb 00 | T...T...V....... |

[Instruction data]
005ec011 => DasmX86Dll.dll not found. 

[Registers]
eip: 005ec091
eax: d1553947
ebx: 00000000
ecx: 0d54d4a0
edx: 00000000
esi: 63ff3200
edi: 0253ab50
ebp: 00000000
efl: 00210283
esp: 0012fd28

[Modules]
base 0x00400000 size 0x00e5b000 entry 0x00f7fd51 "TS3W.exe"                                       "C:\Program Files\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3\Game\Bin\TS3W.exe"
base 0x7c900000 size 0x000b2000 entry 0x7c9120f8 "ntdll.dll"                                      "C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntdll.dll"
base 0x7c800000 size 0x000f6000 entry 0x7c80b64e "kernel32.dll"                                   "C:\WINDOWS\system32\kernel32.dll"
base 0x4fdd0000 size 0x001a6000 entry 0x4fe4f782 "d3d9.dll"                                       "C:\WINDOWS\system32\d3d9.dll"
base 0x6d990000 size 0x00006000 entry 0x6d9914ac "d3d8thk.dll"                                    "C:\WINDOWS\system32\d3d8thk.dll"
base 0x77f10000 size 0x00049000 entry 0x77f16587 "GDI32.dll"                                      "C:\WINDOWS\system32\GDI32.dll"
base 0x7e410000 size 0x00091000 entry 0x7e41b217 "USER32.dll"                                     "C:\WINDOWS\system32\USER32.dll"
base 0x77c10000 size 0x00058000 entry 0x77c1f2a1 "msvcrt.dll"                                     "C:\WINDOWS\system32\msvcrt.dll"
base 0x77dd0000 size 0x0009b000 entry 0x77dd710b "ADVAPI32.dll"                                   "C:\WINDOWS\system32\ADVAPI32.dll"
base 0x77e70000 size 0x00093000 entry 0x77e7628f "RPCRT4.dll"                                     "C:\WINDOWS\system32\RPCRT4.dll"
base 0x77fe0000 size 0x00011000 entry 0x77fe2146 "Secur32.dll"                                    "C:\WINDOWS\system32\Secur32.dll"
base 0x77c00000 size 0x00008000 entry 0x77c01135 "VERSION.dll"                                    "C:\WINDOWS\system32\VERSION.dll"
base 0x76b40000 size 0x0002d000 entry 0x76b42b61 "WINMM.dll"                                      "C:\WINDOWS\system32\WINMM.dll"
base 0x01260000 size 0x00267000 entry 0x0147af6c "d3dx9_31.dll"                                   "C:\WINDOWS\system32\d3dx9_31.dll"
base 0x73760000 size 0x0004b000 entry 0x73761431 "DDRAW.dll"                                      "C:\WINDOWS\system32\DDRAW.dll"
base 0x73bc0000 size 0x00006000 entry 0x73bc1089 "DCIMAN32.dll"                                   "C:\WINDOWS\system32\DCIMAN32.dll"
base 0x76d60000 size 0x00019000 entry 0x76d6530a "iphlpapi.dll"                                   "C:\WINDOWS\system32\iphlpapi.dll"
base 0x71ab0000 size 0x00017000 entry 0x71ab1273 "WS2_32.dll"                                     "C:\WINDOWS\system32\WS2_32.dll"
base 0x71aa0000 size 0x00008000 entry 0x71aa1638 "WS2HELP.dll"                                    "C:\WINDOWS\system32\WS2HELP.dll"
base 0x3d930000 size 0x000e7000 entry 0x3d931748 "WININET.dll"                                    "C:\WINDOWS\system32\WININET.dll"
base 0x77f60000 size 0x00076000 entry 0x77f6520b "SHLWAPI.dll"                                    "C:\WINDOWS\system32\SHLWAPI.dll"
base 0x00340000 size 0x00009000 entry 0x00341782 "Normaliz.dll"                                   "C:\WINDOWS\system32\Normaliz.dll"
base 0x78130000 size 0x00134000 entry 0x78131b06 "urlmon.dll"                                     "C:\WINDOWS\system32\urlmon.dll"
base 0x774e0000 size 0x0013e000 entry 0x774fd079 "ole32.dll"                                      "C:\WINDOWS\system32\ole32.dll"
base 0x77120000 size 0x0008b000 entry 0x77121560 "OLEAUT32.dll"                                   "C:\WINDOWS\system32\OLEAUT32.dll"
base 0x3dfd0000 size 0x001ec000 entry 0x3e0eae3d "iertutil.dll"                                   "C:\WINDOWS\system32\iertutil.dll"
base 0x7c9c0000 size 0x00817000 entry 0x7c9e7516 "SHELL32.dll"                                    "C:\WINDOWS\system32\SHELL32.dll"
base 0x7c420000 size 0x00087000 entry 0x7c450dce "MSVCP80.dll"                                    "C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.VC80.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.6195_x-ww_44262b86\MSVCP80.dll"
base 0x00350000 size 0x0009b000 entry 0x0035232b "MSVCR80.dll"                                    "C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.VC80.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.6195_x-ww_44262b86\MSVCR80.dll"
base 0x76390000 size 0x0001d000 entry 0x763912c0 "IMM32.dll"                                      "C:\WINDOWS\system32\IMM32.dll"
base 0x74d90000 size 0x0006b000 entry 0x74dae439 "USP10.dll"                                      "C:\WINDOWS\system32\USP10.dll"
base 0x59a60000 size 0x000a1000 entry 0x59a907e4 "dbghelp.dll"                                    "C:\WINDOWS\system32\dbghelp.dll"
base 0x76bf0000 size 0x0000b000 entry 0x76bf10f1 "PSAPI.DLL"                                      "C:\WINDOWS\system32\PSAPI.DLL"
base 0x5b860000 size 0x00055000 entry 0x5b868b48 "NETAPI32.dll"                                   "C:\WINDOWS\system32\NETAPI32.dll"
base 0x77920000 size 0x000f3000 entry 0x7792159a "SETUPAPI.dll"                                   "C:\WINDOWS\system32\SETUPAPI.dll"
base 0x73f10000 size 0x0005c000 entry 0x73f11788 "DSOUND.dll"                                     "C:\WINDOWS\system32\DSOUND.dll"
base 0x773d0000 size 0x00103000 entry 0x773d4256 "comctl32.dll"                                   "C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.2600.6028_x-ww_61e65202\comctl32.dll"
base 0x5d090000 size 0x0009a000 entry 0x5d0934ba "comctl32.dll"                                   "C:\WINDOWS\system32\comctl32.dll"
base 0x01d20000 size 0x00016000 entry 0x01d2801f "xinput1_3.dll"                                  "C:\WINDOWS\system32\xinput1_3.dll"
base 0x68b20000 size 0x00020000 entry 0x68b215d5 "glu32.dll"                                      "C:\WINDOWS\system32\glu32.dll"
base 0x5ed00000 size 0x000cc000 entry 0x5ed0a322 "OPENGL32.dll"                                   "C:\WINDOWS\system32\OPENGL32.dll"
base 0x5ad70000 size 0x00038000 entry 0x5ad71626 "uxtheme.dll"                                    "C:\WINDOWS\system32\uxtheme.dll"
base 0x01f00000 size 0x00351000 entry 0x021472f1 "nvapi.dll"                                      "C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvapi.dll"
base 0x74720000 size 0x0004c000 entry 0x747213a5 "MSCTF.dll"                                      "C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSCTF.dll"
base 0x76fd0000 size 0x0007f000 entry 0x76fd3048 "CLBCATQ.DLL"                                    "C:\WINDOWS\system32\CLBCATQ.DLL"
base 0x77050000 size 0x000c5000 entry 0x77051055 "COMRes.dll"                                     "C:\WINDOWS\system32\COMRes.dll"
base 0x038a0000 size 0x002c5000 entry 0x00000000 "xpsp2res.dll"                                   "C:\WINDOWS\system32\xpsp2res.dll"
base 0x6d910000 size 0x00071000 entry 0x6d92a779 "D3DIM.DLL"                                      "C:\WINDOWS\system32\D3DIM.DLL"
base 0x76c30000 size 0x0002e000 entry 0x76c31525 "WINTRUST.dll"                                   "C:\WINDOWS\system32\WINTRUST.dll"
base 0x77a80000 size 0x00097000 entry 0x77a8163a "CRYPT32.dll"                                    "C:\WINDOWS\system32\CRYPT32.dll"
base 0x77b20000 size 0x00012000 entry 0x77b233a1 "MSASN1.dll"                                     "C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSASN1.dll"
base 0x76c90000 size 0x00029000 entry 0x76c91281 "IMAGEHLP.dll"                                   "C:\WINDOWS\system32\IMAGEHLP.dll"
base 0x755c0000 size 0x0002e000 entry 0x755d9fe1 "msctfime.ime"                                   "C:\WINDOWS\system32\msctfime.ime"
base 0x68000000 size 0x00036000 entry 0x68014e88 "rsaenh.dll"                                     "C:\WINDOWS\system32\rsaenh.dll"
base 0x71a50000 size 0x0003f000 entry 0x71a514cd "mswsock.dll"                                    "C:\WINDOWS\system32\mswsock.dll"
base 0x662b0000 size 0x00058000 entry 0x662e7a5b "hnetcfg.dll"                                    "C:\WINDOWS\system32\hnetcfg.dll"
base 0x71a90000 size 0x00008000 entry 0x71a9142e "wshtcpip.dll"                                   "C:\WINDOWS\System32\wshtcpip.dll"
base 0x76ee0000 size 0x0003c000 entry 0x76ee32ad "rasapi32.dll"                                   "C:\WINDOWS\system32\rasapi32.dll"
base 0x76e90000 size 0x00012000 entry 0x76e91260 "rasman.dll"                                     "C:\WINDOWS\system32\rasman.dll"
base 0x76eb0000 size 0x0002f000 entry 0x76eb13a0 "TAPI32.dll"                                     "C:\WINDOWS\system32\TAPI32.dll"
base 0x76e80000 size 0x0000e000 entry 0x76e81bad "rtutils.dll"                                    "C:\WINDOWS\system32\rtutils.dll"
base 0x769c0000 size 0x000b4000 entry 0x769c15e4 "USERENV.dll"                                    "C:\WINDOWS\system32\USERENV.dll"
base 0x77c70000 size 0x00025000 entry 0x77c7432b "msv1_0.dll"                                     "C:\WINDOWS\system32\msv1_0.dll"
base 0x76790000 size 0x0000c000 entry 0x76791b89 "cryptdll.dll"                                   "C:\WINDOWS\system32\cryptdll.dll"
base 0x722b0000 size 0x00005000 entry 0x722b1110 "sensapi.dll"                                    "C:\WINDOWS\system32\sensapi.dll"
base 0x76fc0000 size 0x00006000 entry 0x76fc142f "rasadhlp.dll"                                   "C:\WINDOWS\system32\rasadhlp.dll"
base 0x73b30000 size 0x00015000 entry 0x73b32a80 "mscms.dll"                                      "C:\WINDOWS\system32\mscms.dll"
base 0x73000000 size 0x00026000 entry 0x730054a5 "WINSPOOL.DRV"                                   "C:\WINDOWS\system32\WINSPOOL.DRV"
base 0x76f20000 size 0x00027000 entry 0x76f2ad03 "DNSAPI.dll"                                     "C:\WINDOWS\system32\DNSAPI.dll"
base 0x66e90000 size 0x00041000 entry 0x66e91345 "icm32.dll"                                      "C:\WINDOWS\system32\icm32.dll"
base 0x72d20000 size 0x00009000 entry 0x72d243cd "wdmaud.drv"                                     "C:\WINDOWS\system32\wdmaud.drv"
base 0x72d10000 size 0x00008000 entry 0x72d12575 "msacm32.drv"                                    "C:\WINDOWS\system32\msacm32.drv"
base 0x77be0000 size 0x00015000 entry 0x77be1292 "MSACM32.dll"                                    "C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSACM32.dll"
base 0x77bd0000 size 0x00007000 entry 0x77bd33bd "midimap.dll"                                    "C:\WINDOWS\system32\midimap.dll"
base 0x73ee0000 size 0x00004000 entry 0x73ee1021 "KsUser.dll"                                     "C:\WINDOWS\system32\KsUser.dll"
base 0x76fb0000 size 0x00008000 entry 0x76fb115d "winrnr.dll"                                     "C:\WINDOWS\System32\winrnr.dll"
base 0x76f60000 size 0x0002c000 entry 0x76f61130 "WLDAP32.dll"                                    "C:\WINDOWS\system32\WLDAP32.dll"

[Register memory]
eax d1553940 |                     <??>?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? |        ????????? |
    d1553950 | ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? | ???????????????? |
    d1553960 | ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??                            | ???????          |
ecx 0d54d4a0 |<38>39 aa 0c 04 b4 58 00 0c 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 | 89....X......... |
    0d54d4b0 | 00 00 00 00 59 71 aa 42 09 00 00 00 38 39 aa 0c | ....Yq.B....89.. |
esi 63ff3200 |<b0>ab 53 02 b0 ab 53 02 01 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 | ..S...S......... |
    63ff3210 | 03 00 00 00 ea 94 cb 41 a0 30 da 78 00 00 00 00 | .......A.0.x.... |
edi 0253ab50 |<c4>61 fe 00 39 81 60 02 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 | .a..9.`......... |
    0253ab60 | bc 61 fe 00 44 18 54 02 a4 23 6a 14 98 61 fe 00 | .a..D.T..#j..a.. |

[Extra]
ScriptHeap: 201.72MB/247.96MB (34); 23.26MB

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[Build info]
Application: Sims3
BuildTime:   2014-01-16-1625
BuildUser:   slcbuilder
BuildHost:   SLC1-BUILD111
BuildConfig: Release
BuldVersion: 0.2.0.209
Commandline: C:\Program Files\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3\Game\Bin\TS3W.exe


[System info]
Computer name: MEGAHANDESKTOP
Computer DNS name: megahandesktop
User name: Meaghan
EA_PLATFORM: Windows on X86
OS name: Windows XP
OS version number: 5.1.2600
OS service pack: Service Pack 3
Debugger present: no
CPU count: 4
Processor type: x86
Processor level: 6
Processor revision: 14857
Memory load: 80%
Total physical memory: 3033 Mb
Available physical memory: 603 Mb
Total page file memory: 11030 Mb
Available page file memory: 8838 Mb
Total virtual memory: 2047 Mb
Free virtual memory: 130 Mb

[Application info]
Language: C++
Compiler: Microsoft Visual C++ compiler, version 1400
App path: C:\Program Files\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3\Game\Bin\TS3W.exe
App version: 0.2.0.209

[Exception info]
date: 2024-03-11
time: 00.57.26
type: ACCESS_VIOLATION writing address 0x00000000
address: 0x003672d7 "C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.VC80.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.6195_x-ww_44262b86\MSVCR80.dll":0x0001:0x000162d7

[Call stack]
C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.VC80.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.6195_x-ww_44262b86\MSVCR80.dll
0x003672d7

C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.VC80.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.6195_x-ww_44262b86\MSVCR80.dll
0x00367344

C:\Program Files\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3\Game\Bin\TS3W.exe
0x00433ee6

C:\Program Files\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3\Game\Bin\TS3W.exe
0x00417637

C:\Program Files\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3\Game\Bin\TS3W.exe
0x00443d39

C:\Program Files\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3\Game\Bin\TS3W.exe
0x6e03e460

C:\Program Files\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3\Game\Bin\TS3W.exe
0x004439d0


0xc700047e


[Stack data]
0012fba0 | 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00<00>00 00 00 | ................ |
0012fbb0 | d0 fb 12 00 44 73 36 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 | ....Ds6......... |
0012fbc0 | 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 | ................ |
0012fbd0 | 54 fc 12 00 e6 3e 43 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 | T....>C......... |
0012fbe0 | 00 80 00 00 94 4a 48 6c d0 d0 47 6d 09 1a 43 00 | .....JHl..Gm..C. |
0012fbf0 | 20 4a 48 6c 01 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 f4 fc 12 00 |  JHl............ |
0012fc00 | 00 00 00 00 94 4a 48 6c 61 31 43 00 94 4a 48 6c | .....JHla1C..JHl |
0012fc10 | e0 03 43 00 00 80 00 00 20 4a 48 6c 00 00 00 00 | ..C..... JHl.... |
0012fc20 | c6 31 43 00 94 4a 48 6c 0f 00 00 00 78 d3 f9 00 | .1C..JHl....x... |
0012fc30 | 38 00 00 00 0f 44 43 00 94 4a 48 6c 78 d3 f9 00 | 8....DC..JHlx... |
0012fc40 | 38 00 00 00 20 4a 48 6c 00 20 00 00 20 40 6d 6f | 8... JHl. .. @mo |
0012fc50 | 20 4a 48 6c 8c fc 12 00 37 76 41 00 7c b6 f9 00 |  JHl....7vA.|... |
0012fc60 | 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 c0 40 4b 00 00 00 00 00 | .........@K..... |
0012fc70 | 70 74 41 00 80 74 41 00 18 2c ff 79 28 fd 12 00 | ptA..tA..,.y(... |
0012fc80 | 00 00 00 00 70 ce 47 6d 20 40 6d 6f f4 fc 12 00 | ....p.Gm @mo.... |
0012fc90 | 39 3d 44 00 00 fd 12 00 60 e4 03 6e 00 00 00 00 | 9=D.....`..n.... |
0012fca0 | 01 00 00 00 00 60 6f 62 8a f9 f7 00 e8 29 14 01 | .....`ob.....).. |
0012fcb0 | b7 5f 44 00 32 00 00 00 dc fc 12 00 f0 2b ff 79 | ._D.2........+.y |
0012fcc0 | 28 fd 12 00 90 c9 47 6d 00 60 6f 62 28 fd 12 00 | (.....Gm.`ob(... |
0012fcd0 | 51 2c e5 4f a0 f2 22 00 1d 61 44 00 f4 fc 12 00 | Q,.O.."..aD..... |
0012fce0 | 32 00 00 00 18 2c ff 79 0a 00 00 00 00 60 6f 62 | 2....,.y.....`ob |
0012fcf0 | 18 2c ff 79 90 fa f9 00 60 e4 03 6e 40 71 14 01 | .,.y....`..n@q.. |
0012fd00 | 00 00 00 00 00 bf 15 00 47 3f d6 00 60 e4 03 6e | ........G?..`..n |
0012fd10 | 32 00 00 00 18 2c ff 79 0a 00 00 00 f0 2b ff 79 | 2....,.y.....+.y |
0012fd20 | f0 2b ff 79 00 60 6f 62 60 fb f9 00 01 00 00 00 | .+.y.`ob`....... |
0012fd30 | 01 70 3f 18 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 | .p?............. |
0012fd40 | 4c fb f9 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 | L............... |
0012fd50 | 4c fb f9 00 29 40 d6 00 60 e4 03 6e f0 17 53 02 | L...)@..`..n..S. |
0012fd60 | 20 c8 47 6d 90 05 60 02 ce 60 6f 62 b3 95 72 00 |  .Gm..`..`ob..r. |
0012fd70 | 90 c9 47 6d f0 2b ff 79 00 00 00 00 ce 60 6f 62 | ..Gm.+.y.....`ob |
0012fd80 | 90 d1 52 02 e0 a4 60 02 00 00 00 00 88 d1 52 02 | ..R...`.......R. |
0012fd90 | f0 2b ff 79 b4 a2 11 bb 43 97 72 00 e8 a4 60 02 | .+.y....C.r...`. |
0012fda0 | 00 00 00 00 11 a1 59 00 e8 a4 60 02 90 05 60 02 | ......Y...`...`. |

[Instruction data]
00367257 => DasmX86Dll.dll not found. 

[Registers]
eip: 003672d7
eax: 00000000
ebx: 00008000
ecx: 00000100
edx: 00000000
esi: 00008000
edi: 00000000
ebp: 0012fbb0
efl: 00210206
esp: 0012fbac

[Modules]
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[Register memory]
ebx 00008000 |<??>?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? | ???????????????? |
    00008010 | ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? | ???????????????? |
ecx 00000100 |<??>?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? | ???????????????? |
    00000110 | ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? | ???????????????? |
esi 00008000 |<??>?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? | ???????????????? |
    00008010 | ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? | ???????????????? |
ebp 0012fbb0 |<d0>fb 12 00 44 73 36 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 | ....Ds6......... |
    0012fbc0 | 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 | ................ |

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ScriptHeap: 240.29MB/279.96MB (38); 21.80MB
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Issue with two somewhat persistent game crashes

Post by igazor » March 18th, 2024, 11:14 pm

From what you have described, the CAS crash is probably due at least in part to CC. Can you reproduce it with no CC present?

But my assessment, for what it's worth, is that you went a bit too retro with this system for TS3 in particular. You are running a 32-bit operating system with a total of 3 GB of RAM and do not have enough physical memory to effectively service the operating system and the game. When there is not enough physical memory present, then virtual memory gets invoked but TS3 is totally unstable when run using virtual memory.

How many EPs are in play, and which ones? The original minimum system requirements from 2009, which I am sure your system meets with flying colors, were for the base game only and no EPs. The heavy hitting ones require more resources than this and expecting game sessions to last for hours on 3 GB total on anything more than the bare minimum totally unpleasant to look at graphics settings across the board where the game is probably never going to get more than 1.5 GB or so to work with is I'm afraid not very realistic.

One thing that would help running the base game and maybe a couple of the lighter weight EPs would be a suitable dedicated graphics card. Does it have one (which model) or is it relying on integrated graphics?

Also, for what it's worth, without having seen the total set of specs yet I bet this system would take to TS2 more easily if you have access to and any affection for that iteration of the game.
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Post by puzzlezaddict » March 18th, 2024, 11:31 pm

I see that igazor got here first, but I don't feel like completely overhauling my answer, so I'll leave it as-is and just say the non-repetitive part is about the usable memory limits for the game and OS.

Both of these look like out of memory crashes. The problem here is Sims 3 can only use 2 GB memory, I believe because you're running a 32-bit OS. The default limit for user-mode programs is 2 GB accessible memory, and I believe raising the limit to 3 GB is doable but unsupported on standard versions of Windows.

I don't actually know much about Sims 3's behavior in a 32-bit OS, for example whether it crashes when it gets close to the RAM limit or it can go right up to that limit. These crashes say the game had 129 and 130 MB memory available at the time, which makes me think the game can't quite use all of the available RAM, but this is a small sample size, and Sims 3 could easily use close to this much memory by default if all packs are installed.

At any rate, if you're committed to the retro machine, the first question is whether you only have 3 GB RAM installed, or you have 4 GB but the system can only use 3. For the latter, my understanding is that it has to do with memory-mapped hardware devices, which is not something you can work around easily. More information if you're curious:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_GB_barrier

It would be useful to know how the game's memory use is behaving overall: whether the game routinely gets close to its 2 GB limit with no problems, or it starts out lower and is at risk of crashing whenever you get close to the limit.
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Post by Chain_Reaction » March 19th, 2024, 12:57 am

One of those is a C++ interpreter crash which is not easy to pull off given the engine is a static binary that is shielded from any funky state the scripting might get into. You're definitely choking it for memory.

I'd take the retro idea and put it out to pasture personally. This game runs fine on most modern hardware with a bit of finagling that is well documented at this point.
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Issue with two somewhat persistent game crashes

Post by dandelion212 » March 19th, 2024, 5:46 pm

I picked these parts out specifically for TS1/2 and some other games of the era -- absolutely no performance issues there, both run flawlessly and I've been having a blast with them. 3 was just a fun little experiment, but I am keen to get it working well on the setup in some form. Parts for the XP era are remarkably cheap right now and for as overkill as these specs are about to sound, I put it together for only $200, and it runs Crysis on high (and Ultra high with a slight hit to performance), which is pretty nuts. The CPU is a i5 3570K from the Ivy Bridge era, and it's got a GTX 670 that the graphics are running off.

All EPs installed, no SPs, ~30GB of CC. It does generally seem to perform better on this hardware in terms of lag than my modern machine, but slightly higher in crash frequency -- the long-running play session crashes I expect, but there are times on this machine where it happens 10-15 minutes in to a session. The CAS crash does indeed happen with no mods as well, but seemingly with less frequency, so I'm not sure what's going on there. It seems to happen more if I don't wait to start interacting with CAS until the whole list of items loads.

The RAM usage does seem to regularly sit around 1.7-1.9GB with no issues. Nothing crazy sparks the crashes, sometimes just sitting there waiting for an interaction like washing the dishes to finish, while two sims are alone at home; or sleeping through the night. I do have more than 4GB total installed -- the person I bought the motherboard from had the CPU & RAM pre-installed, so it's got 16GB, which the system obviously can't use. I was aware of the limit, but wasn't clear on the difference between running it on a 32bit vs 64bit OS -- am I to understand it gets slightly more memory on the 64bit? It wouldn't be a hassle at all to section off part of the SSD to dual-boot XP 64bit solely for this game if that would be a help.

I do wonder if it's a page file thing. I have the OS running off a SSD, and there's no trim command for SSD maintenance in XP, only 7 and above, so I have the page file disabled on the SSD and enabled on the secondary HDD. Using it on the SSD would require frequent insertion of the 7 install disk to run the command I did notice some issues with other things when switching this over -- Minecraft through MultiMC worked fine with the page file enabled on the SSD but refuses to initialize with not enough memory (despite the same amount allotted) when it was switched over to the HDD. It's got quite a bit of virtual memory; unsure if reducing that amount may help, or not. I suppose it would help if there was a way to tell the OS to prioritize physical memory for this application, but I'm not quite sure that exists?

I will add that I used this exact set of mods/CC (same folder that's gone with me from my original XP machine back in 2009) up until 2015 on a XP 32bit install with significantly worse specs CPU/GPU wise (Core2Duo and a Geforce 8800) and 4GB ram so I'm somewhat inclined to think this is something funky with the page file as I didn't experience these early-session crashes back then. I used to stream the game and have some old recordings of that, and the crashes are generally later into a session, around 1.5-2 hours in. Might be a question for a retro computing forum past here, but I do appreciate the knowledge that it is indeed a memory crash as I've got no idea how to read these crashes haha!

Edit: Out of all the crashes I've had, the remaining available memory ranges are:
Physical: 600-750MB
Page file: 8900-9000MB
Virtual: 40-200MB
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Issue with two somewhat persistent game crashes

Post by igazor » March 19th, 2024, 6:12 pm

dandelion212 wrote: ↑
March 19th, 2024, 5:46 pm
 am I to understand it gets slightly more memory on the 64bit?
A 64-bit OS would allow your system to use all 16 GB of RAM installed. Thus the game would have all that it possibly can as well (~3.7 GB if needed) and you could even open up a web browser or some other program, within reason, while the game is running without fear of running out of memory.

I get the point of the retro setup for other games, but TS3 is so...non-standard? delicate? unpredictable? (choose one or all of the above) that constantly chasing issues around on older hardware would probably sap the fun out of the playing the game for me, at least these days. But, of course, to each their own. :)
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Issue with two somewhat persistent game crashes

Post by dandelion212 » March 19th, 2024, 10:11 pm

igazor post_id=100421 time=1710886364 user_id=6716 wrote:
dandelion212 post_id=100420 time=1710884818 user_id=27101 wrote: am I to understand it gets slightly more memory on the 64bit?
A 64-bit OS would allow your system to use all 16 GB of RAM installed. Thus the game would have all that it possibly can as well (~3.7 GB if needed) and you could even open up a web browser or some other program, within reason, while the game is running without fear of running out of memory.

I get the point of the retro setup for other games, but TS3 is so...non-standard? delicate? unpredictable? (choose one or all of the above) that constantly chasing issues around on older hardware would probably sap the fun out of the playing the game for me, at least these days. But, of course, to each their own. :)
Cheers, I'll throw it onto a 64 bit install! I will admit that chasing down the issues is half the fun, pushing the limits of stuff is real fascinating to me xD. It took about a week of troubleshooting to get the SSD working as it's not compatible right out the gate, and I've got some games that aren't even technically supposed to run on XP going strong (Dishonored Definitive, Life is Strange). May not be everyone's definition of fun but I enjoy it lmao. Thanks for the assist.
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