Teens can't cuddle on couch?

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Teens can't cuddle on couch?

Post by kimikobristen » July 28th, 2015, 11:32 pm

At first I thought it might be other mod causing this, but after doing the 50/50 method, it came down to only woohooer base mod that makes teen can't cuddle? I have no idea if this is by design and I'm supposed to turn it on somewhere else. If so please let me know? And sorry in advance if that's the case.

Otherwise, I only noticed this recently and am unsure if it's been like that since the beginning. I tested with a clean game with only nointro and woohooer base mod. Teens can't cuddle. I'm fully patched and all. The mod is version 128. And by can't cuddle, I actually meant that the interaction does not come up. I set debugging to true and there's nothing either.

I really am not sure if it's an issue with woohooer, but I tested and this is the only mod that causes this.

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Post by igazor » July 28th, 2015, 11:57 pm

I can assure you that teens can cuddle. My main household's sofa has worn out three times from all the teen couples cuddling on it over the years (not really).

I'm even more surprised that the interaction doesn't show when you have Woohooer's debugger on. That usually reveals everything, though of course the blocked interactions would be greyed out. So debugger on and Teen 1 sitting on the sofa already, you don't get the greyed out interaction at all on another, not blood related sim?

Not confident this is it, but try NRaas > Woohooer > General > Unlock Interactions for Teens > (set to True). I didn't think this was one of the blocked interactions opened up by that command, but maybe it really is.

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Post by igazor » July 29th, 2015, 12:47 am

Another couple of questions -- you are looking for the Cuddle interaction on the other sim in the sim menu, not on the sofa and not under Romantic, correct? Also, is it possible that either teen is having a Mood Swing?

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Post by kimikobristen » July 29th, 2015, 2:01 am

I have set that to true, and the interaction I am looking for is when an active sim teen sits on a couch, and I click on other teen where I should see cuddle interaction. So, yes? No mood swings.

Without woohooer this shows up just fine. But with the mod young adults and older can cuddle just fine. Just not teens, for some reason.

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Post by igazor » July 29th, 2015, 4:35 am

I take it you have tried different teens and different sofas.

Okay, I had to extricate myself from where I was in game and get over to a house with an active teen. He invited over his two teen Romantic Interests -- none of them have partners (steadies). Relationship scores are 100 all the way round. And I can't break this, Cuddle always shows and works for me except when there wasn't room on the couch because someone else was sitting in the way.

I tried switching on the link between Woohooer and StoryProgression, which often causes problems for me. Still no breakage.

My version of Woohooer is <a href="http://nraas.wikispaces.com/Woohooer+Testing">v129a from Testing</a>, but I really don't think anything relevant changed since v128.

What else can I try (tomorrow) with the relationships between my teens to better re-create your conditions? These three admittedly have a pretty long history together, are extremely flirty and attracted to each other.

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Post by kimikobristen » July 29th, 2015, 6:44 am

Okay, I think there's something wrong with my game, or something.

I tested it on my laptop which I only have the Base Game and Generations that I use for testing. I have tried running a clean game. I tried with different teens and sofas. Again, the only thing in Mods folder is nointro and woohooer base mod. Cuddle interaction doesn't show even on my laptop. I also downloaded the testing version just to be sure. As before, the interaction just would not show up. I also tried to see if anything is different by enabling debugging. The only interaction that shows (greyed out) is Risky Woohoo.

After that I removed it just to be sure, and the cuddle interaction shows up. So this time while without the mod, I tried by saving while they are cuddling. When the game loads with the mod, they are still cuddling just fine, and the make out or kiss interaction can work as usual. I canceled the cuddling interaction and when I click again, the cuddle interaction will not show up. I really wish I could provide more info, but this is just it.

Also, speaking of long history together, I only noticed because while playing a teen in my main game that also are flirty and attracted with each other etc. I suddenly felt like I want them to cuddle on sofa. I rarely direct teens to do any flirting or romancing, so I didn't notice until now.

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Post by igazor » July 29th, 2015, 9:41 am

I don't mind further testing on a fresh game when I can get the chance. But one thing we haven't ruled out as a possible difference is the teens' relationships with each other. Are yours RIs like mine were or just Friends/Best Friends and how high is their relationship score for each other, in case those are factors?

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Post by kimikobristen » July 29th, 2015, 10:16 am

In my main game, they are romantic interests, relationship 100. In the new game, I tested both, while they're just friends and also Romantic Interest, both value 100. But, I used testingcheatsenabled to drag their relationship to 100, and later made them kiss for romantic interest. That's it.

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Post by igazor » July 29th, 2015, 11:26 pm

Okay LOL, that was fun.

Fresh game, fresh sims, Woohooer base mod on all default settings, and No Intro only, no other mods or add-ons, two unrelated flirty teens in the household who knew nothing about each other. The best I could manage was both of them on the sofa and "Make Move," which is a really funny predecessor to cuddling. When eventually successful after a lot of chatting up, that one morphed into cuddles and from there I could get to Kiss and Make Out (the cuddling kind of each).

But only once. After that, forget it, the interaction was gone.

After awkwardly trying more things than I care to admit, I found that NRaas > Woohooer > Woohoo > Allow Teen Woohoo unlocks the regular Cuddle interaction the way we are used to seeing it. With Teen Woohoo disallowed, it's gone and as you said not showing in the debugger either. Can you re-create this on your end?

I have no idea if the effect is intentional or not, we'll have to have a developer explain this one. :)

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Post by kimikobristen » July 30th, 2015, 1:06 am

Ha! I did let teen woohoo disabled, and it actually crossed my mind that might be the case, but of course during testing I completely forgot about the possibility of cuddling be related to woohoo and therefore did not change the default settings.

I play with my sisters and I set teens to be from the age of 10 to 18, so I can't possibly let them woohoo, and stuff.

But yes, you're right! I just tested and they can cuddle just fine. Really glad to know it's not my game that's buggy or something. I hope the cuddle won't be disabled just because woohoo is, though. Other than that I'm glad just knowing the cause, for now. Thanks igazor :)

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