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Some Newborns Cause Family Tree to Freeze Game

Posted: September 16th, 2019, 10:12 am
by Heredity Sims
The issue I'm having is not a NRAAS bug. Rather, it's an EA bug that I use Master controller to remedy.

Before explaining it, I'd just like to thank the coders for your wonderful mods. I really find them indispensable to my enjoyment of the game.

I'm playing a legacy game currently on my 7th generation. Keep in mind that I use the caste system to restrict romance and pregnancy within a tightly-knit "nobility."

The problem I'm having is that after five or six generations, the family tree begins to freeze but only when clicking on certain newborns in the family tree, or when making those newborns active and then clicking on the family tree from their sim panels. I've tried to age-up some newborns to see if the problem is age-related, but the bug persists even into childhood. The bug causes the entire game to freeze, even after force closing the game from the Task Manager and restarting.

I have been working around the problem by using Total Annihilation on the bugged newborns. As you can imagine, this is not an ideal fix because I am playing a Generations game and deleting sims screws up the families significantly.

I should also add that I allowed the game to run past midnight and past 3 a.m. to see if Error Trap might clear up the problem, but so far no luck.

The bugged Sims seem to operate normally aside from the family tree freeze.

I've also ruled out any computer-related cause because I recall encountering this bug when playing the game years ago on a different computer.

Again, I know this is not a NRAAS-specific issue, but I also know that there are lots of smart, committed Sims 3 players here, so I wanted to try broaching the subject here in hopes that someone might have encountered this issue before or might have some suggestions to fix it.

Thanks in advance for any help or comments.

Some Newborns Cause Family Tree to Freeze Game

Posted: September 16th, 2019, 10:32 am
by igazor
Hi there. May I ask please, how many levels of the family tree you have MasterController set to display? We know there is a breaking point, but it's not necessarily going to be the same for all players or even all saved games. The game is just not designed to keep this data clean enough for display after a certain point, even though sims still know whom they are related to and act accordingly. The more usual symptom is that the family trees refuse to display at all, not that they freeze the game by being interacted with, but It's possible that you are just beginning to reach that breaking point where you are now.

What many players do is track their long-running games' family trees in third party programs or web services designed for these functions. Others here would have to tell us which such programs they use and how enjoyable or annoying they might be to maintain as play progresses.

This won't really be helpful info I guess, but ErrorTrap doesn't do anything special at midnight or 3 am. It's Overwatch that has a scheduled overnight run.

Some Newborns Cause Family Tree to Freeze Game

Posted: September 16th, 2019, 10:58 am
by Heredity Sims
Success!!

Just as you suspected, I had Family Tree Levels set too high (it was at 99!!!).

I've changed it to 3, and the newborn from my most recent save no longer freezes the game.

Thank you very much for your prompt reply, and for catching my "Error Trap" mistake (I indeed meant Overwatch).