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DEBUG: Cleanup State

Posted: October 18th, 2018, 7:11 am
by C-Dark
DEBUG: Cleanup State (UNTESTED)  The purpose of this interaction is unknown.

I just tried it on my household lot and realized that all book shelves where totally gone lol, have 3 so no problem. Don't know why it does it - so I placed new ones and filled them with books via DE.
Everything else seems to be o.k. no more missing objects.

This can be added in the interactionlist for Debugenabler as one noticed happening.

DEBUG: Cleanup State

Posted: October 18th, 2018, 7:19 am
by igazor
The confusion over that command rests with the word "cleanup" -- some players think this means it will make the lot less dirty, but that's clearly not what it's meant to do (whatever it's meant to do and means by "state" remain unknown). I think it's sufficient that we advise players to not use it, like so many others of the commands available through DE that weren't meant to be reachable by non-EA players.

DEBUG: Cleanup State

Posted: October 18th, 2018, 7:26 am
by C-Dark
Well, I don't understand, I think it would be more informative if the DE user gets some more hints.
It would not hurt to add user experiences in the Documentation of the game-options, so in the future this option gets more clear, if more can be added Image

DEBUG: Cleanup State

Posted: October 18th, 2018, 7:51 am
by C-Dark
Attention, the option does not only delete book shelves on the clicked lot:
It deletes ALL bookshelves in the played world, on all lots.

DEBUG: Cleanup State

Posted: October 18th, 2018, 7:52 am
by igazor
Because players using commands labeled DEBUG that were placed there by EA's developers for reasons known only to them at the time can lead to broken games. That's why these commands are (or in my opinion at least should be) labeled as "Use at your own risk, have your game backed up first" rather than "this might delete your bookcases." The latter may well be the least thing players will have to worry about if the advice goes unheeded or they feel like experimenting on a test copy of their ongoing game.

DEBUG: Cleanup State

Posted: October 18th, 2018, 8:14 am
by C-Dark
I agree with the " labeled as "Use at your own risk, have your game backed up first" or save befor, but still I don't see why you are so strictly against adding informations to the docs.
The option is available and this site shall inform users the best if possible, more is better than less.

Not all Debug labeled options are "risky" quite the reverse, a lot are very usefull: look at the
Debug: Add ... books option or
Debug: Run magical cleanup

By the way - it does not " might delete your bookcases."  - it surely does.

DEBUG: Cleanup State

Posted: October 18th, 2018, 8:57 am
by C-Dark
I'm still in that game to see if I can find out more, this seems the only thing left, but its enormous

- lol in addition all friendship and relationship states - except sims related to blood with all low own friendship points
are completely wiped out from the relationship panel, no icons anymore
and MC also tells - relationships, romances, married sims don't exist.