Help! I traveled 3 sims to vacation world, moved them into rented home, made a base camp, so they could buy a vacation home. They bought the vacation home and moved into it. After the move was complete I used traveler and changed homeworld. I did the recommended save as and quit and then reloaded game. I let them settle in last night and this morning I wanted to test going back to the previous homeworld to play the family there. I want to keep these sims connected.

I used the method described to double click my sim off the travel planner, clicked on Midnight Hollow and it prompted me to save. The load never would go through. I tried several times and the green line would stick about 1/8 of the way and the music would stop and the hints froze completely and didn't change. I let it run for 40 minute the first time. 30 the second and 5 the third time and gave up.

My MH world takes about 20 min to load prior to the move. The new BB world takes about 5. The BB world is a new one. I deleted the files from the previous travel to it so I would have a fresh world from the one I tested.

Do I need to send a sim back to the previous homeworld at least once to be able to travel back from the new homeworld without a sim? I didn't try that yet. I did load my main game save from just before the move just to be sure it would load and it did in 18 minutes. Any advice is much appreciated. I really want to have some linked worlds for this family as it is too large for MH anymore.

A couple of things come to mind.

1 - I've had trouble occasionally transitioning from one already connected world to another, that is by "traveling" with no sims on board. Not exactly the symptoms you have described, in these cases I either get a crash upon arrival or some weird Error12 issue pops up usually from the game trying to decide for me (incorrectly) which household I want to play upon arrival and there being far too many confusing things going on with it. I can get relief in these rare instances by grabbing or creating some sim I don't care about (as much), travel/moving them back to the original world instead, and doing the permanent move procedure on them then leaving them alone and switching into the households I really wanted to play back there.

2 - It could also be that nothing is really wrong. As it takes 20 min for your MH to load under more usual circumstances, it could be that the return transition only looked and sounded stuck but it was really still processing. Not sure why, but I have had first and second time transitions into a homeworld take up to an hour (not every time) and then finally load up normally. The music stopping and the hints freezing on the transition screens always happen for me, just not usually for quite that long.

I tried again sending a sim with the travel. It did like before stopped, no music, nothing, then all of a sudden it started back after 45 or 50 min and was loaded at just shy of one hour. I just need to go clean the bathroom or kitchen while waiting for travel. I parked that sim in a 'rental' and switched to the family I left behind. They had lost all their wishes, which at this point with them probably not a biggie, but, is there a way to set the family to keep dreams and wishes but, not the whole town? The kids that didn't move out will start getting nice wishes and hate to lose those. It is good to know that you get the music stopping and hints freezing and it is not just my puter.

If this is the same pattern I often see, the 45-50 minutes thing will not happen when you travel back to that particular world within that game again. Or maybe it's that it won't happen the next time you travel away from the new(er) world. Something like that. It's not at all a routine that one should always expect, if it were I would have the cleanest bathroom and kitchen in town myself. But I've learned not to panic or get annoyed when it does happen.

Your original household lost their dreams and opps because the sequence you used (had to use from the sound of it) is not Dream Catching -- remember, you had to switch households after the Change Hometown to get back to them being active and it's the one being switched out of that does (or does not) trigger a Dream Catching interaction. The way to make this work differently might have been back in the very beginning before anyone left MH, use a Dream Catching switch to get away from playing the active household by separating the ones moving into a household of their own (on an empty lot if necessary) then again a Dream Catching switch after the re-entry.

But that won't always work and having too many Dream Managers running in MH (when it's actually the active world) could cause other problems. I know it's difficult in some cases, but I would advise not getting too attached to those high level dreams when permanently moving sims across worlds like that.

oh, forgot about that. Oh well, will just have to do like you said and don't get attached to wishes. I really want this to work with the linked towns so will learn to deal with it Thanks for the help I appreciate it so much.

I have another question about the traveling. I did another test travel with an empty travel back to the orginal homeworld MH. It only took about 45 min...which was a nice surprise. I wanted to check if family there still owned the real estate and they do as it shows as owned by them. It is also owned by the ones that moved to BB as well, so I expect I will have them sell theirs. I guess if I do this again, which is planned for the teens, I should have the ones moving, move out of the family to an empty lot and travel after that? The other thing I noticed is that the sister who moved away is showing up as related, but her husband and child are not showing up in the family panels at all and he and the child were members of the household while in MH and became good friends with several of the family members. The baby probably stayed at whatever I have set on SP for meet at birth, but, is not listed in the panels. Is that normal?

I often (but not always) do the move to an empty lot first thing. The mod/game will try to error on the side of inclusion when it "decides" who gets things like family inventory items and real property holdings. It would have no way of knowing who is supposed to get what if the household splits and moves to a foreign world both at the same time and would have no way of knowing that the player even intends to ever return to the original world and its sims, so these items end up copied into both inventories (portfolios, etc.). For me splitting the household first, making sure everyone has what they are supposed to without the copies, then doing the foreign move works out better in cases where this makes a difference. Some households of course have no property or even family inventory items to be all that concerned about, so of course if it comes time to split those households I just don't bother with the in between step.

BB is Barnacle Bay? This is one of the four EA worlds that used to be at fault for sims dropping off the relationship panel after a move and return travel but it was supposed to have been fixed in v87 of Traveler. But even then, I'm pretty sure these sims still knew and were related to the "missing ones," (so that would be a brother-in-law and nephew/niece in this case?) and would react accordingly if they appeared together on-screen again. Not so, or too soon to tell?

yes, it is a brother in law and nephew relationship. I will remember to do the split in the future before the move. Since the sister is still in their panels and she is the tie between the two families as they lived with her brother and his family before married and moving out I will see what happens when I go back to play the teens. Appreciate the help.