Hello there,

I recall encountering a page (not a forum post, but an actual page) on the old WikiSpaces version of this site that outlined what features of NRAAS were already covered by AwesomeMod, and vice versa, for those who wished to use both core mods concurrently with each other (like myself). For example, it stated that the AntiMagicScroll module is essentially useless because AwesomeMod already contains the functionality for the exact same thing. 

I can't seem to find the old page on the new site, and Googling for answers doesn't turn up what I need. Using the Wayback doesn't seem to work, as it seems the general Help/FAQ section hadn't been well-preserved in the most recent snapshot. Plus, I don't even know where to find said page. I think I found it via a google search when I found it in the past. 

I am trying to pinpoint the cause of an exception error AwesomeMod keeps throwing (which I outlined in another forum post here: chatterbox/topic6357), and I suspect its due to some sort of incompatibility. It's been a few years since I last checked the compatibility of the two mods and I suspect I may have slipped up in my checking somewhere.

Was I just imagining this page? If it actually does exist, is it still available in some form, and where can I find it? Heck, even a copy-paste of the information would work for me too. 

I think that could use a bit of an update when you get around to it. I use Awesomemod and with the tuning file you can allow teen/adult romance and even woohoo. I haven't tested it, but it's definitely available via the tuning file configuration. See: http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/ts3/a ... config.php under "Gameplay Features - Romance & Perversion".

bonniherself post_id=59075 time=1540480208 user_id=6091 wrote: I think that could use a bit of an update when you get around to it. I use Awesomemod and with the tuning file you can allow teen/adult romance and even woohoo. I haven't tested it, but it's definitely available via the tuning file configuration. See: http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/ts3/a ... config.php under "Gameplay Features - Romance & Perversion".

 

The page is correct as it stands. If you use the Awesome config file to allow teen-older romance and woohoo, then the sims participating in those activities will be branded with negative labels and thus some serious repercussions for the rest of their lives. If you further attempt to bypass that effect, the mod is programmed to intentionally crash the game on you. If you attempt to get around this by removing Awesome from an ongoing game and have sims do teen-older, again your game will crash because it will have been "booby-trapped."

It's not that teen-older remain forbidden, it's that the effects of doing so cannot be bypassed.

> If you use the Awesome config file to allow teen-older romance and woohoo, then the sims participating in those activities will be branded with negative labels and thus some serious repercussions for the rest of their lives. 

Really? Wow. What happens? The only reason I would consider enabling it is to account for two teens who were sweethearts and then one ages up and suddenly they can't even hold hands (had that happen not long ago in a game, very annoying).

So why put in the option in the config if the mod's creator(s) don't want to allow it at all? Any thoughts on that?

igazor wrote: ↑

October 25th, 2018, 11:40 am

If you attempt to get around this by removing Awesome from an ongoing game and have sims do teen-older, again your game will crash because it will have been "booby-trapped."

Is this something you've experienced? From a technical standpoint I can tell you mods have no way to influence a game once removed unless they have mangled EA data which would trip over it's self but wouldn't directly be the mod controlling what happens. But yes there is a call for the game to exit if you have it installed and try to get around it's pedo feature.

bonniherself wrote: ↑

October 26th, 2018, 2:07 am

So why put in the option in the config if the mod's creator(s) don't want to allow it at all? Any thoughts on that?

Clearly you don't know Pescado well.

Heh. No, I don't know him well. Only by rumour and certain reputation, but I never know how much of that to take seriously. I have a bit of a better picture of him now, though.

ANNND... this explains the hidden traits accessible via MC that are things like "registered sex offender" and "pedobait" and so forth. Have seen those and knew they had something to do with Awesomemod, but I didn't know what. I have a much clearer picture of that now, too!

ETA: Ack. I just realised in the quote I tried to put in I used Reddit formatting. D'oh! Too much time spent on Reddit. I don't even know how I managed to delete the actual, correct formatting. Some days...
 

The history is that Pescado did not want to allow teen-older. His constituents "insisted" that he do so precisely to help them get past the situation where one member of a teen couple ages up to YA before the other and he got tired of the arguments including those from his own senators or whatever they are called over there, so this was the result. His booby-trapping does not alter the game program files, of course mods cannot do that, only the ongoing game saves from which the player might remove the mod in order to get around his restrictions.

Allegedly. Hope I haven't been contributing to the spreading of some sort of urban legend all this time.

I have long ago removed Awesome from my ongoing game of seven years now and have had no issues with teen-older. But at exactly the same time I had also switched from the Mac version of the game to Windows and this was also where I permanently Traveler shifted my focus of gameplay away from Sunset Valley to Riverview within this game and haven't played SV as anything other than a vacation world since then so I always thought that coincidentally I had managed to render his trap dormant or left it behind in the SV nhd file where it's not been doing any harm since then. Am only going by what so many others have reported.

igazor wrote: ↑

October 26th, 2018, 5:30 am

Allegedly. Hope I haven't been contributing to the spreading of some sort of urban legend all this time.

This sounds like something you may have heard so many times on the official forums that it stuck. There's just no way to pull that off. Maybe what you heard is so long as the mod is installed, you can't get around his pedo bait play house... even if you no longer persue the teenager you're forever labeled a pedo and your Sim will suffer because of it for as long as they live.

Chain_Reaction post_id=59306 time=1540984944 user_id=2 wrote:This sounds like something you may have heard so many times on the official forums that it stuck. There's just no way to pull that off. Maybe what you heard is so long as the mod is installed, you can't get around his pedo bait play house... even if you no longer persue the teenager you're forever labeled a pedo and your Sim will suffer because of it for as long as they live.


 

I know and did experience the effects of the pedo stuff on some relatively minor characters in my ongoing game with the mod still in place, from some otherwise harmless accidental teen-older flirts ("honestly your honor, I thought she was older than that") up through attempting to maintain a teen-YA relationship after one of the teen sims aged up before the other. That was one of the things that prompted me to seek its removal and play forward; the minor characters were expendable to me, but I did not want these effects spreading to the sims I cared about more and they could have ruined my ongoing legacy at the time if I hadn't been very careful with them. It did not help that the graphics on my Mac were not spiffy enough for me to understand at first what the cute little pedo bear icons on the unlocked romantic interactions were and thus what they meant (this was Pescado's way of "warning us") before trying or allowing them to happen.

As for hearing things like the persistent booby-trap after mod removal so many times that I may have regarded them as true without seeing them for myself, you have a point there. But certainly not on the official EA forums, we couldn't even begin to discuss this as "officially" teens cannot woohoo even with each other and there is no discussion of teen-older of any kind there. That kind of chatter would be shut down immediately by its moderators. These discussions would have been on MTS and Awesome's own support boards. I believe the point was supposed to be (allegedly) that if the sims already have the pedo, pedo-bait, and/or sex offender traits, then the mod's removal tool leaves something else undesired associated with these sims that we cannot see behind should it be attempted and such behavior allowed to continue after the removal.