Boring romance wishes..

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Boring romance wishes..

Post by kkaizer » June 11th, 2019, 12:06 am

LI usually consider their wishes very importantly and remember when playing the sims 2, I could get the idea who they choose for their partners. Their wants usually leads to the next step in their romantic relationships. However, in the sims 3, it seems they barely show their romantic interests through their wishes... i have played this game at least about 10 years and barely saw their wishes leads to the next step. It has usually been me who decides to move their relationship to the next level. Once I make them go into steady relationship they sometimes show their getting married and being engaged wishes but before then they barely show who they are romantically interested. Thanks to story progression, they autonomously choose their partners when they are inactives, but when I play them, they don’t show their romantic interests through their wishes... all i get is pillow fight with someone wishes.. or just one time kiss someone wish and go on a date wish and nothing after that... those are not connected to the next level of wishes. After fulfilling them, sims just start showing normal wishes.

is there any fix for this kind of thing or does anyone have any workaround?

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Post by sheridanhoughton » June 11th, 2019, 9:46 pm

I find that if they have the right traits, they sometimes get generic wishes to get married, etc, but not to anyone in particular. When I want to find out who they actually fancy the most, I invite over all the contenders and then have my sim 'scan room'. then he/she will get a list of all the possible sims in the room, and a score for each one. then I pick the one with the highest score. This feature (scan room) comes with one of the nraas mods, but I am not sure which one.
The other option is to 'consider attractiveness' when having a friendly interaction with a sim. But I don't find this as accurate as the 'scan room' interaction.

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Post by igazor » June 11th, 2019, 10:30 pm

Scan Room comes with Woohooer, I was going to mention that as well. Sometimes though I see sims whom I still think would be perfect together score lower on that than ones they hardly even know. To me that becomes a challenge to improve the score of what I think would be the "better" couple. It's even more fun when neither sim is actively controlled (except to just run the Scan Room) and my sims end up playing matchmaker, throwing the two poor unsuspecting sims into as many social situations as possible. Sometimes it works but sometimes I try too hard and they push back, ending up not liking each other very much at all especially if either or both sims lack Charisma. Consider Attractiveness for many of us never works right, it tends to return either a score of 1 or 10 but usually nothing in between.

Back on the original question though, I don't think there is any meaningful way to influence the specific wishes that sims draw. If Confess Attraction to X and Ask X to Go Steady where X is a specific sim are not in the pool of wishes that can even be drawn upon, I don't believe there is any helpful way to coax them out.

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Post by Sara_Darkees » June 11th, 2019, 11:51 pm

igazor wrote:
June 11th, 2019, 10:30 pm
Sometimes though I see sims whom I still think would be perfect together score lower on that than ones they hardly even know. To me that becomes a challenge to improve the score of what I think would be the "better" couple. It's even more fun when neither sim is actively controlled (except to just run the Scan Room) and my sims end up playing matchmaker, throwing the two poor unsuspecting sims into as many social situations as possible. Sometimes it works but sometimes I try too hard and they push back, ending up not liking each other very much at all especially if either or both sims lack Charisma.
Oh, no, this game could destroy my OTP :cry:

Really, kkaizer, sometimes, despite all your efforts, sims show almost no interest in each other. For example, in my current game, my character has a romantic interest in certain girl and that happened for the most part thanks to me. However, he is attracted by the girl with whom he is feuding. Sympathy in this game is quite evil and funny thing. Boring wishes - it's not such a terrible trouble. That's when sim is attracted to someone who gives him a slap - it's really strange

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Post by kkaizer » June 12th, 2019, 12:37 pm

I use scan room interaction too but it shows different scores everytime I did this. I always invite sims and usually scan the room multiple times in a row and it gives me different order of sims...



I was playing Tamara Donner in SV and she is supposed to be a flirty sim but while I was playing her for a sim week, she has never showed any romantic wish to anyone..... she seems to be only active romantically when I don’t play her by the story progression...
Also her room mates, they barely showed any romantic wishes... i think one of them once showed date wish but that was it. He didn’t go any further than that with his wishes. Once it was achieved, he didn’t want to go any further and started showing regular skill wishes...
I guess some people hated those chains of romantic wants from the sims 2 date system and the developers took that thing out in the sims 3 but i really missed those chains of wants from my sims. It feels a little bit more realistic and less data-like in the sims 2...
sorry for my ranting... dont get me wrong. i love the sims 3!!

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Post by igazor » June 12th, 2019, 1:00 pm

Scan Room has some short term elements in it, like a sim's current state of mind/moodlets and an element of randomness that will return slightly different results each time. But the differences shouldn't be wildly so; if a sim scores over 100 for any other sim, then there is at least some element of attraction there. If they score let's say 125 for one but over 300 for another, then that would be a significant difference. Differences of more like 20 or 30 are not as meaningful. Scores can go much higher than otherwise if the KamaSimtra skill is in play, but it isn't required.

I find that my active sims do draw wishes related to others whom they like being around, but they tend to be more in the areas of grouping up and going on (another) date than moving romantic couplings forward unless they have traits that make them wish to get married just generally as stated.

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Post by deedee_828 » June 12th, 2019, 10:39 pm

My experience has been that though they may not have a lot of romantic wishes related to other sims, if you put them in romantic situations with another that they find attractive, they will autonomously continue romantic interactions if they're so inclined (on high free will).
And of course Inappropriate Sims will do so...inappropriately, like flirting with your soon to be sister-in-law who's fiancé is a martial arts expert and built like a truck! Or my Inappropriate family ghost that introduced himself to the same sim above and they both got the swirly hearts above their heads! And her fiancé is his many times removed grandson. So instead of waiting for romantic wishes, which are few and far between sometimes, I think it's better to watch your sims and see how they behave around prospective partners. Did they get the hearts when they first met? Do they continue romantic interactions on their own once you stop nudging them along? I too like having them fulfill the wishes but sometimes they just don't pop up. But look at is this way, actions speak louder than words or wishes!

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Post by JohnL83 » June 13th, 2019, 3:44 pm

Kkaizer- I often find it all discouraging too. What bugs me is not just what you speak of in your OP, but also when you have Sims who all have the faithful moodlet and yet, quite literally out of nowhere, with no build up, they will pull a romantic interaction on another Sim! Often it is the, "Ask to watch the Stars" interaction, causing every sim on a lot who knows them to get upset. And yet this never seems to matter at all to the Sims doing the cheating...which is another programing issue that bugs me. It would be nice to see some guilt actions from the sim cheating or how about them not actually cheating?...at the very least not while their spouse or partner is in the very same room/lot or surrounded my people who know them!

I also hate to see two Sims who hate each other fight and in the next breath chat as if they didn't just beat the crap out of each other! LOL

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